- I still dont think this is enough to go on yet.

- but it could get there.

- That's why I called it the first breadcrumb :)

- It's not much but it's a start

- Yea.

- So where do we go from here?

- We watch the guardians

- see what happens

- @theprevaricator I requested access to your list

- You said their map had 65 views? Is it safe to say if they are killed it was one of those 65?

- oh!

- forgot

- wrong folder

- Not necessarily. Someone could just pass the info along to someone else

- A broker, whatever

- and i cant see views

- i mean

- cant see who the views were

- Um
Did I request access to the real map then?😱

- That would not be good. Hey maybe you'll get an invite lol

- Was it ever actually down, or just the web interface?

- True

- Nadia confirmed it was down...for now earlier today

- She got that from one of the listers.

- Burn errybody

- Like seriously

- [[😳 Sticker, size 29'168 bytes]]

- This. Everybody cheating

- New phone, who this

- Like who is your buddy is irrelevant.

- ok, changed plan

- moved the map

- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XWJjWwKzVI10QbRkLh6-L7XbZjE&usp=sharing

- Krug or some unknown. Burn it.

- new link

- in whistle folder

- I dont know australia ENL well. I have a dozenish contacts and we talk sporadically.

- I want to be careful is all.

- I have a few close Aussie contacts. But if found any of them are involved in something like this, done

- what if its all of them

- or if like SF they are manually tracking

- (not likely given the data)

- we dont see the backend, we dont see who else is involved

- its a map and a name right now

- I understand that

- I'm trying to figure out the different colored pins. Green and red. Any ideas?

- age?

- this is not necessarily true. Export to mymaps isn't hard.

#110 deep necro

- I wondered that. No way to tell

- My local used to post this when I kept tagging his backpack

- {{FWD: Mo Hughes <span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-0" style="background-position: -108px -72px;" title="point_up_2">:point_up_2:</span><span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-1" style="background-position: -342px -18px;" title="goat">:goat:</span><span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-0" style="background-position: -108px -0px;" title="heart_eyes">:heart_eyes:</span>, 20.10.2017 23:47:51}}
Anyone here besides me going to be at Mission Day in Provo? I don't have a counterpart because the green XF-CC got banned for spoofing with 3 accounts.

- @Catw0man1 is Provo on your travel itinerary?

- {{FWD: Tiernan (NVX) NQ AU, 21.10.2017 00:16:45}}
So there's been RES leaks, and as a result there's been a desire to expose the presumably similar ENL scrapers of the world as well in a similar manner. I don't run such a tool nor am I affiliate with them, but I do run some tools which, just like IITC, do violate the strict letter of the ToS. As operators we've set an arbitrary view on where that line should be and what tools we are and are not comfortable using and that's fine, however rumours of ENL agents wanting to blow open things is concerning to me because I don't know if your opinion on this matter includes eg flipcard databases and portal location information.

As I have absolutely no desire to get caught up in the middle of this sort of thing, anyone suspected of wanting to willingly leak any information on opsec tools as a preventative measure will not have access to any tools I develop.

- Huh.

- Reasonable.

- Sort of.

- oh that's interesting. That's my language.

- Also means anyone in here could be liable to be removed if that becomes known.

- " On the ENL side, there's enl.wtf, and cactus, and poptart. I don't know much about these things. Factionally, I'm not a cool kid. People know I'm awkward and moralistic. They don't invite me to controversial stuff. That's fine. If I knew more about them, I'd just blow them open. Everyone knows this."

- I'm pretty familiar with the part of my personal toolset that Tiernan developed and confident I can defend their use to a public audience if they receive scrutiny, and go without them if they become unavailable for any reason, or no reason.

- Nope, he's talking about me.

- He has removed me.

- yep. Here we go.

- From what?

- people in faction who are scared of what we are doing are now talking about what we're doing.

- this is the result of leaks, and that's fine

- Nv.io/ingress

- it was going to happen. Just be aware that it's happening, and make decisions accordingly.

- I can login, there are no tools

- So 30 minutes after we get an email from someone anonymous implicating an Australian guardian Hunter I get removed and we get a general warning from an Australian dev.

- No one outside this room knew.

- I'm not familiar with this link, or at least my new laptop isn't. What is it?

- Tiernans distribution point for plugins

- Someone else who had access login.

- Are any plugins listed?

- Jesus fucking Christ.

- I don't even know what that site is

- I'm not doing this. This is too sensitive to be done in this room now.

- classic cool kids club

- heh

- Yep. Fuck it

- Im out.

- We could have done great things.
.....21.10.2017 00:32:32, Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US): >>left group<<

- I miss Erich

- It's the middle of the night on a Friday. Let's be cool.

- Everyone breathe

- Does he think he was outed by this room or does he think he was set up by the anonymous Australian Emailer?

- Everything is fine. Erich needed to be in a different space for a while. There is no drama.

- we can comfortably carry on.

- Um well

- Im gonna drop this. I dont have much to contribute

- Best of luck
.....21.10.2017 00:36:43, James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16: >>left group<<

- We should calmly discuss this

- yeah

- What do we think is happening?

- Did anyone else in here have access to that site he linked?

- I've not heard of it

- Lots of back channel conversations, I think.

- I didn't click to check

- We've been saying dangerous things, and various people in various precarious positions are starting to freak out.

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