- SeaFoamSoul SAS I'm not agreeing that it's bad/sneaky behavior; I'm saying it would feel more like that, and less like a neutral and valid infowar/psyop move if they hadn't been playing that game as well. I don't think it's dirty/sneaky at all. Optimizing the release time to our advantage, and to their disadvantage is fair play IMHO.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS Absolutely. My impression was that the goal of releasing it prior to the anomaly was to maximize the attention it receives, assuming that Whistle was correct about the involvement of anomaly leadership. Disrupting actual anomaly play/planning is just another tick in the "pros" column of using that timing, and another reason it's a strategically sound move.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS This is so important. I know there's a lot of relevance to the Guardian issue, but from the discussion here today if nothing else, it's evident that ENL have scraping tools being used for the same purpose. But if anomaly leadership and faction ambassadors to Niantic are involved, it really needs to be accompanied by some noise, and interfering with anomaly mechanics will do that. It's really a good thing if that Noise is more distracting to our opponents than us, especially if it's because their leadership is more deeply involved in shady shenans than ours. Of course, this strategy heavily depends on that being true.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS I'm having a hard time articulating my own feels. I don't even know how to guide this one in so as to mitigate the blast, beyond "please try to stay civil, and keep it out of comms for the love of god, but please do also post about about how this makes you feel. Post somewhere, anywhere, and tag as many people as you can think of."
- SeaFoamSoul SAS I didn't mean as a group though. We've got a range of opinions in here for which tools are okay and which are not, as well as what the reporting threshold is or should be. If you're an anomaly operator with access to anomaly tools, and you want to preserve that connection, maybe it would be worthwhile approaching the dev(s) to explain your position.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS I think this is a reasonable tack that even a panicked developer who understandably reacted in fear to secondhand information might understand after a little time has passed, if approached directly and individually. They also might not. I think leaving the room is probably pointless at this stage, unless the point is you're upset and feel betrayed, which is also understandable, even if a leak was unavoidable.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS Can we please focus on that single task, and protect and support one another in that endeavor? If you feel like there are other tools that need dismantling, or another dragon you'd like to slay from the back of this one, start another breakout. Please don't co-opt the efforts of the people here who have put good faith into this single cause. Please also lift up and support your fellow agents in this who are under attack by focusing on THIS issue.
- SeaFoamSoul SAS I'd forgotten about that one. I knew about it but never sought access because the numbers never interested me beyond what popped up as the fields were established. I know it's scrapery but my impression was that it was a narrowly focused research project. I hope it's not shutting down but I get the worry.