- Lol

- Wait what room am I in? Reddit Ops 201

- ;)

- Lololololol

- Anyone know how many people get their ingress news from reddit or Twitter vs g+?

- Not-for-profit status? Buffalo ENL do this. Hold a monthly membership meeting (brunch & login sheet) and get some great slack benefits.

- So I know we are not spamming, but I'd like to point out that Stego's spouse telek is shown with an active green dot in one of those screen shots

- Also, I see some "no pants" references among avatars and statuses... Is that a RES dispatcher/operator trope too?

- I'm sorry

- I am SO curious about who it is

- It's not Itso9 flipping back right? Lol

- πŸ’š

- This is like that time we found out colangus and insatiable were fucking over CT ENL

- I'm surprised that his name is in this list

- Also, Krug just officiated his wedding...

- Yeah

- No idle speculation

- Yeah

- So many familiar names

- I'm disappointed and not surprised

- Yeah I know some Mainers who would relish rubbing this in some other Mainers faces. What a shit show this will be...

- Yes but they probably have to use their in-game username and the bot probably needs that name to match real life... Maybe? I could be assuming too much.

- Mine three

- Covering for team mates

- Or oneself yeah

- Yeah, my "good one" is actively looking shit up in some of those screen grabs

- Ugh

- Yep they will come up

- Some "helpful" operator from another country introduced some of my locals to Cactus πŸ˜’

- This is just a friendly reminder that this is all very big news and is going to make very big waves. It's not a firehose , it's a firestorm waiting to happen. Keep it secret, keep it safe, do not leak even a hint of this to your home teams etc... This is going to be a hot mess no matter what and we don't want to burn down our own networks in the course of exposing it. We need to have frank factional conversations about fair tool use, but it's not going to happen in this charged room right now.

- She

- The database of scraped comms data can predate the tool

- I was responding that Stego is a she.

- I'm just saying that as much as I want to have that knock down drag out fight, now probably isn't the best time.

- And really I'd rather educate our communities from boots up to not fall for scrapey tools and clubs in the first place.

- Definitely

- πŸ’š

- Thanks Steph

- So sorry to crash the meeting
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- There are at least three variations of this username... Is this mission monster kidd or New England shard kidd?

- Dun dun dunnnnnn

- Thanks just want to be sure before I dedicate my pitchfork to the wrong one

- πŸ’š

- Lol

- Amen

- What about wanderer68 and stlcard? Not locals?

- Gotcha

- Oh right!

- Indeed

- How does one get out of cactus? And how would one get in to it in the first place? I'm not sure if I'm in it?

- So if I'm not in a channel with the cactusbot I'm good?

- Who?

- Because tools don't win anomalies

- Interpret my use of the word "tools" however you like 🀣

- Yes

- Tag them in comms?

- Can we make our website look like this one?

- Riot.rocks

- Oops that's already taken

- "Above reproach" is so subjective it's almost impossible to decide who qualifies. Because from the outside, being on an access list appears damning... And from the inside you have people in this very chat rationalizing the relative badness of scraping for some things and not others.

- Because we are ENL, we are automatically out of the running for "above reproach" to many many RES.

- And vice versa

- There isn't anything this organized, but from the average agent's perspective, how is it different?

- πŸ’š

- Yes and they will be pedantic af

- But when this breaks it can be used as ample fodder for the guardian mechanic debate and why it should go away

- Do we want to circle up and tag as many of these users as possible in the initial post?

- So as many as possible?

- Channel preview lets you do a lot without joining, including reading messages and seeing a member list

- Agreed. Don't give them a convenient redirect.

- Keep it about the data

- Search here for "chatter"

- I'm so tempted but there's that whole high road thing

- Exactly.

- Yeah. It definitely feels like old ingress... Res play on easy mode, Enl play on nightmare mode

- Lol

- Can I just say how inordinately proud it makes me that I picked green and not blue? Like, they just cheat their way through and constantly harangue us in comms and social media for being cheaters ourselves... It's so gross from the outside, and now I can see how gross it is on the inside... I know there are bad actors who wear green too, I'm not naive, and I try to consider everyone as an ingresser not matter the color but this feels... Fundamental to the differences in our factions.

- πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

- Semi has one setting. Everything will be fine.

- πŸ˜‚

- What will the web link be when it's finished and public?

- Yeah I'm about there too

- Yeah it really does creep for itself

- Just like a shard nap!

- I hate to say it, and I love my northern allies, but I think they are Europe lite β„’ when it comes to scraping and gray area tools.

- Yeah

- Representative of our best agents

- Selected based on merit of some sort

- Like... "look at how pervasive this problem is; even your non-political elites are tainted"

- When this goes live, there will be a pin here to alert us, yes?

- In the web address?

- Cjohn32

- That's an ENL agent right?

- Correct

- Or an alt ;)

- I would suggest sending via DMs to people you know will care as well as posting publicly... Just a "holy shit did you see this?" kind of thing

- Lol

- The trolling opportunities in the tiny urls is SO GOOD

- Agreed

- It doesn't matter if it's shut down

- We have it all already

- We weren't going to get more

- And it should shut the fuck down

- πŸ˜‚

- Agreed

- This changes nothing

- It's all on the sheet and in the screen caps

- They should be panicking

- And it should get shut down

- Yes do it lol

- πŸ‘‹

- πŸ‘ they'd be stupid to do that I think

- Fair enough

- Ask WB how often that happens

- HA

- ::dancing on their graves::

- Interesting

- Zing!

- I'm curious about their reaction as well (using the gender-neutral pronoun for WB now, fight me). It doesn't fit quite right.

- It was more of a shrug really

- Yeah

- No way to call attention to it without calling attention to WB

- They could be fishing

- But it is consistent with the creep show we've seen from Res Brokers so far

- Yes

- Should we encourage WB to speak to Krug?

- In case there are other details that NIA Ops needs in order to pursue this?

- Just spitballing

- Done. New Google password and 2fa initiated.

- πŸ’š

- [[GIF, size 199'408 bytes]]

- I mean the parallels between Jiminy Cricket and Semiotiq are limitless

- Well okay limited

- But still.

- AHA

- Sleeps in a matchbox

- Obnoxiously moral

- Green

- Affinity for tophats

- I might have gone off script thwre

- NO U

- Hug

- I think a nod to guardians as the top of the slippery slope is fine but the emphasis needs to be on the granularity and invasiveness of the tracking of actual human beings in real life.

- That's much better than "Nadia Y U Do Dis"

- I thought they were implicating you in the exposΓ©

- Before yesterday I didn't know enl.wtf existed. I saw one screen grab on g+ from June 2016 and it looks very similar to riot.one... With itso9's name on the list and his faction change due to not having the creative freedom he wanted... It makes a girl wonder.

- I'm so horribly backlogged right now but have we discussed contacting the developer who kinda publicly quit and borked cactus awhile back? I bet we can find that catfight in VL3+ global and get his perspective on the ENL side.

- {{FWD: Mo Hughes <span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-0" style="background-position: -108px -72px;" title="point_up_2">:point_up_2:</span><span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-1" style="background-position: -342px -18px;" title="goat">:goat:</span><span class="emoji emoji-spritesheet-0" style="background-position: -108px -0px;" title="heart_eyes">:heart_eyes:</span>, 20.10.2017 23:47:51}}
Anyone here besides me going to be at Mission Day in Provo? I don't have a counterpart because the green XF-CC got banned for spoofing with 3 accounts.

- @Catw0man1 is Provo on your travel itinerary?

- Does he think he was outed by this room or does he think he was set up by the anonymous Australian Emailer?

- Um well

- We should calmly discuss this

- What do we think is happening?

- I've not heard of it

- I didn't click to check

- Yes and it's no reason to panic

- Ok good

- I hope he is ok

- Do we know that there are leaks tho?

- We know Krug/NIA Ops got a heads up

- But that's not a leak

- We know the technological sophistication of our opponents in riot

- We know they mad bro

- We know they are actively attacking whatever edge they can find

- I think it's likely that they will be trying hard to stir us up behind the scenes

- Sew doubt and paranoia

- It's their playbook

- Yes for sure

- Sorry my brain hurts, I'm probably still using the wrong homonym

- I think we should not frame them as leaks though

- Side effects, yes fine

- πŸ‘

- Yes

- Everything will be fine

- Yeah most likely a universal freeze

- I'm not familiar but if I had tools and had doubts I'd lock them down temporarily too

- Well maybe now we can finally have that faction-wide conversation about what tools are ok.

- I'm sorry

- It's late, that was glib

- Old guard?

- I am not afraid of my standing in the faction. I am not seeking power. I don't need tools access if I am on an ENL blacklist somehow and get access revoked.

- πŸ’š

- Well only 5 of us appear to be online

- Gah I think I need sleep, this is starting to feel like a nightmare game of werewolf

- I love you all. I'm sorry shit's gotten real. I cannot think of anyone in here who would betray anyone else. I hope everyone comes out the other side ok.