Whistle Orga Transcript Archive

2017-10-17 13:18:47 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Lol

2017-10-17 13:20:16 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Wait what room am I in? Reddit Ops 201

2017-10-17 13:20:44 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah ;)

2017-10-17 13:20:56 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Lololololol

2017-10-17 19:29:22 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Anyone know how many people get their ingress news from reddit or Twitter vs g+?

2017-10-17 20:11:59 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Not-for-profit status? Buffalo ENL do this. Hold a monthly membership meeting (brunch & login sheet) and get some great slack benefits.

2017-10-17 20:52:38 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah So I know we are not spamming, but I'd like to point out that Stego's spouse telek is shown with an active green dot in one of those screen shots

2017-10-17 20:53:48 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Also, I see some "no pants" references among avatars and statuses... Is that a RES dispatcher/operator trope too?

2017-10-17 20:53:58 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm sorry

2017-10-17 20:56:23 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I am SO curious about who it is

2017-10-17 20:56:38 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It's not Itso9 flipping back right? Lol

2017-10-17 20:56:50 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-17 20:57:36 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah This is like that time we found out colangus and insatiable were fucking over CT ENL

2017-10-17 20:58:16 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm surprised that his name is in this list

2017-10-17 20:58:30 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Also, Krug just officiated his wedding...

2017-10-17 20:58:43 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah

2017-10-17 20:58:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah No idle speculation

2017-10-17 21:03:28 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah

2017-10-17 21:03:38 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah So many familiar names

2017-10-17 21:03:54 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm disappointed and not surprised

2017-10-17 21:11:44 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah I know some Mainers who would relish rubbing this in some other Mainers faces. What a shit show this will be...

2017-10-17 21:17:30 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes but they probably have to use their in-game username and the bot probably needs that name to match real life... Maybe? I could be assuming too much.

2017-10-17 21:22:59 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Mine three

2017-10-17 21:23:37 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Covering for team mates

2017-10-17 21:23:51 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Or oneself yeah

2017-10-17 21:24:43 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah, my "good one" is actively looking shit up in some of those screen grabs

2017-10-17 21:40:46 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Ugh

2017-10-17 21:41:18 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yep they will come up

2017-10-17 21:44:07 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Some "helpful" operator from another country introduced some of my locals to Cactus 😒

2017-10-17 22:03:08 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah This is just a friendly reminder that this is all very big news and is going to make very big waves. It's not a firehose , it's a firestorm waiting to happen. Keep it secret, keep it safe, do not leak even a hint of this to your home teams etc... This is going to be a hot mess no matter what and we don't want to burn down our own networks in the course of exposing it. We need to have frank factional conversations about fair tool use, but it's not going to happen in this charged room right now.

2017-10-17 22:03:48 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah She

2017-10-17 22:04:25 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah The database of scraped comms data can predate the tool

2017-10-17 22:04:53 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I was responding that Stego is a she.

2017-10-17 22:05:58 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm just saying that as much as I want to have that knock down drag out fight, now probably isn't the best time.

2017-10-17 22:06:42 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah And really I'd rather educate our communities from boots up to not fall for scrapey tools and clubs in the first place.

2017-10-17 22:09:44 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Definitely

2017-10-17 22:11:17 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-17 22:14:19 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah #sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LTPhGVZNfUSQyaPz8eq9EO-S1RebKBz6vKIGsIk-g1o/edit#gid=0

2017-10-17 22:34:15 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Thanks Steph

2017-10-17 22:34:21 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah So sorry to crash the meeting
.....17.10.2017 22:34:38, Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA): >>unsupported service message type: messageActionChatJoinedByLink<<

2017-10-17 22:49:18 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah There are at least three variations of this username... Is this mission monster kidd or New England shard kidd?

2017-10-17 22:49:51 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Dun dun dunnnnnn

2017-10-17 22:51:11 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Thanks just want to be sure before I dedicate my pitchfork to the wrong one

2017-10-17 22:51:42 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-17 22:56:27 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Lol

2017-10-17 22:56:29 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Amen

2017-10-17 22:57:03 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah What about wanderer68 and stlcard? Not locals?

2017-10-17 22:57:17 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Gotcha

2017-10-17 22:57:51 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Oh right!

2017-10-17 22:58:24 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Indeed

2017-10-17 23:12:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah How does one get out of cactus? And how would one get in to it in the first place? I'm not sure if I'm in it?

2017-10-17 23:16:57 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah So if I'm not in a channel with the cactusbot I'm good?

2017-10-17 23:58:43 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Who?

2017-10-18 00:32:08 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Because tools don't win anomalies

2017-10-18 00:32:34 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Interpret my use of the word "tools" however you like 🤣

2017-10-18 00:42:32 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes

2017-10-18 00:45:11 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Tag them in comms?

2017-10-18 01:48:07 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Can we make our website look like this one?

2017-10-18 01:48:10 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah http://www.resistance.rocks/SiliconValley/Byte/5851/index.html

2017-10-18 02:20:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Riot.rocks

2017-10-18 02:21:13 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Oops that's already taken

2017-10-18 08:44:05 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah "Above reproach" is so subjective it's almost impossible to decide who qualifies. Because from the outside, being on an access list appears damning... And from the inside you have people in this very chat rationalizing the relative badness of scraping for some things and not others.

2017-10-18 08:45:00 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Because we are ENL, we are automatically out of the running for "above reproach" to many many RES.

2017-10-18 08:45:27 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah And vice versa

2017-10-18 08:47:16 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah There isn't anything this organized, but from the average agent's perspective, how is it different?

2017-10-18 08:48:40 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-18 08:49:50 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes and they will be pedantic af

2017-10-18 09:04:02 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah But when this breaks it can be used as ample fodder for the guardian mechanic debate and why it should go away

2017-10-18 09:09:10 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Do we want to circle up and tag as many of these users as possible in the initial post?

2017-10-18 09:10:01 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah So as many as possible?

2017-10-18 13:15:52 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Channel preview lets you do a lot without joining, including reading messages and seeing a member list

2017-10-18 16:36:26 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Agreed. Don't give them a convenient redirect.

2017-10-18 16:36:37 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Keep it about the data

2017-10-18 17:47:39 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Search here for "chatter"

2017-10-18 20:30:11 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm so tempted but there's that whole high road thing

2017-10-18 20:40:07 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Exactly.

2017-10-18 20:41:24 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah. It definitely feels like old ingress... Res play on easy mode, Enl play on nightmare mode

2017-10-18 20:41:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Lol

2017-10-18 20:45:45 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Can I just say how inordinately proud it makes me that I picked green and not blue? Like, they just cheat their way through and constantly harangue us in comms and social media for being cheaters ourselves... It's so gross from the outside, and now I can see how gross it is on the inside... I know there are bad actors who wear green too, I'm not naive, and I try to consider everyone as an ingresser not matter the color but this feels... Fundamental to the differences in our factions.

2017-10-18 21:43:33 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 👍👍👍👍👍👍

2017-10-18 22:28:05 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Semi has one setting. Everything will be fine.

2017-10-18 22:29:56 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 😂

2017-10-18 22:30:35 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah What will the web link be when it's finished and public?

2017-10-18 23:58:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah I'm about there too

2017-10-19 00:00:30 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah it really does creep for itself

2017-10-19 07:46:04 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Just like a shard nap!

2017-10-19 09:34:50 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I hate to say it, and I love my northern allies, but I think they are Europe lite ™ when it comes to scraping and gray area tools.

2017-10-19 10:33:57 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah

2017-10-19 10:34:05 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Representative of our best agents

2017-10-19 10:34:23 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Selected based on merit of some sort

2017-10-19 10:35:40 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Like... "look at how pervasive this problem is; even your non-political elites are tainted"

2017-10-19 10:50:10 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah When this goes live, there will be a pin here to alert us, yes?

2017-10-19 10:55:41 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah In the web address?

2017-10-19 10:55:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Cjohn32

2017-10-19 10:56:08 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah That's an ENL agent right?

2017-10-19 10:56:42 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Correct

2017-10-19 10:56:52 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Or an alt ;)

2017-10-19 11:05:31 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I would suggest sending via DMs to people you know will care as well as posting publicly... Just a "holy shit did you see this?" kind of thing

2017-10-19 11:05:57 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Lol

2017-10-19 11:06:19 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah The trolling opportunities in the tiny urls is SO GOOD

2017-10-19 11:16:35 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Agreed

2017-10-19 11:16:46 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It doesn't matter if it's shut down

2017-10-19 11:16:52 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We have it all already

2017-10-19 11:17:12 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We weren't going to get more

2017-10-19 11:17:22 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah And it should shut the fuck down

2017-10-19 11:17:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 😂

2017-10-19 11:18:01 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Agreed

2017-10-19 11:18:08 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah This changes nothing

2017-10-19 11:18:22 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It's all on the sheet and in the screen caps

2017-10-19 11:18:32 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah They should be panicking

2017-10-19 11:18:43 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah And it should get shut down

2017-10-19 11:19:15 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes do it lol

2017-10-19 11:19:31 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 👋

2017-10-19 11:19:50 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 👍 they'd be stupid to do that I think

2017-10-19 11:20:33 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Fair enough

2017-10-19 11:20:46 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Ask WB how often that happens

2017-10-19 11:22:07 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah HA

2017-10-19 11:22:24 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah ::dancing on their graves::

2017-10-19 11:46:33 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Interesting

2017-10-19 16:10:04 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Zing!

2017-10-19 16:57:31 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm curious about their reaction as well (using the gender-neutral pronoun for WB now, fight me). It doesn't fit quite right.

2017-10-19 16:58:45 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It was more of a shrug really

2017-10-19 16:59:30 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah

2017-10-19 17:01:13 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah No way to call attention to it without calling attention to WB

2017-10-19 17:02:02 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah They could be fishing

2017-10-19 17:02:45 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah But it is consistent with the creep show we've seen from Res Brokers so far

2017-10-19 17:05:35 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes

2017-10-19 17:05:58 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Should we encourage WB to speak to Krug?

2017-10-19 17:07:11 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah In case there are other details that NIA Ops needs in order to pursue this?

2017-10-19 17:07:15 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Just spitballing

2017-10-19 21:28:34 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Done. New Google password and 2fa initiated.

2017-10-19 22:30:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-20 00:01:45 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah [[GIF, size 199'408 bytes]]

2017-10-20 00:05:03 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I mean the parallels between Jiminy Cricket and Semiotiq are limitless

2017-10-20 00:05:25 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Well okay limited

2017-10-20 00:05:32 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah But still.

2017-10-20 00:05:51 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah AHA

2017-10-20 00:06:15 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Sleeps in a matchbox

2017-10-20 00:06:20 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Obnoxiously moral

2017-10-20 00:06:25 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Green

2017-10-20 00:06:32 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Affinity for tophats

2017-10-20 00:06:42 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I might have gone off script thwre

2017-10-20 00:06:59 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah NO U

2017-10-20 00:07:12 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Hug

2017-10-20 08:42:00 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I think a nod to guardians as the top of the slippery slope is fine but the emphasis needs to be on the granularity and invasiveness of the tracking of actual human beings in real life.

2017-10-20 08:46:35 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah That's much better than "Nadia Y U Do Dis"

2017-10-20 08:46:52 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I thought they were implicating you in the exposé

2017-10-20 09:08:59 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Before yesterday I didn't know enl.wtf existed. I saw one screen grab on g+ from June 2016 and it looks very similar to riot.one... With itso9's name on the list and his faction change due to not having the creative freedom he wanted... It makes a girl wonder.

2017-10-20 22:46:52 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm so horribly backlogged right now but have we discussed contacting the developer who kinda publicly quit and borked cactus awhile back? I bet we can find that catfight in VL3+ global and get his perspective on the ENL side.

2017-10-20 23:59:10 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah {{FWD: Mo Hughes :point_up_2::goat::heart_eyes:, 20.10.2017 23:47:51}}
Anyone here besides me going to be at Mission Day in Provo? I don't have a counterpart because the green XF-CC got banned for spoofing with 3 accounts.

2017-10-21 00:00:21 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah @Catw0man1 is Provo on your travel itinerary?

2017-10-21 00:35:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Does he think he was outed by this room or does he think he was set up by the anonymous Australian Emailer?

2017-10-21 00:36:31 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Um well

2017-10-21 00:36:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We should calmly discuss this

2017-10-21 00:37:04 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah What do we think is happening?

2017-10-21 00:38:29 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I've not heard of it

2017-10-21 00:38:39 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I didn't click to check

2017-10-21 00:39:31 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes and it's no reason to panic

2017-10-21 00:39:37 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Ok good

2017-10-21 00:39:44 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I hope he is ok

2017-10-21 00:40:32 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Do we know that there are leaks tho?

2017-10-21 00:40:49 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We know Krug/NIA Ops got a heads up

2017-10-21 00:40:58 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah But that's not a leak

2017-10-21 00:41:37 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We know the technological sophistication of our opponents in riot

2017-10-21 00:41:51 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We know they mad bro

2017-10-21 00:42:09 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah We know they are actively attacking whatever edge they can find

2017-10-21 00:42:47 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I think it's likely that they will be trying hard to stir us up behind the scenes

2017-10-21 00:42:55 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Sew doubt and paranoia

2017-10-21 00:43:01 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It's their playbook

2017-10-21 00:43:13 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes for sure

2017-10-21 00:43:54 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Sorry my brain hurts, I'm probably still using the wrong homonym

2017-10-21 00:44:29 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I think we should not frame them as leaks though

2017-10-21 00:44:42 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Side effects, yes fine

2017-10-21 00:44:54 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 👍

2017-10-21 00:45:00 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yes

2017-10-21 00:45:06 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Everything will be fine

2017-10-21 01:06:41 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Yeah most likely a universal freeze

2017-10-21 01:07:03 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm not familiar but if I had tools and had doubts I'd lock them down temporarily too

2017-10-21 01:08:03 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Well maybe now we can finally have that faction-wide conversation about what tools are ok.

2017-10-21 01:08:11 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I'm sorry

2017-10-21 01:08:17 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah It's late, that was glib

2017-10-21 01:09:39 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Old guard?

2017-10-21 01:11:09 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I am not afraid of my standing in the faction. I am not seeking power. I don't need tools access if I am on an ENL blacklist somehow and get access revoked.

2017-10-21 01:34:15 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah 💚

2017-10-21 02:44:05 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Well only 5 of us appear to be online

2017-10-21 02:44:45 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah Gah I think I need sleep, this is starting to feel like a nightmare game of werewolf

2017-10-21 02:46:09 - CQ 🐛👑 Sarah I love you all. I'm sorry shit's gotten real. I cannot think of anyone in here who would betray anyone else. I hope everyone comes out the other side ok.