- Geez that was an interesting long backlog.

- Oh I know

- One of the screenshots with omgkitties...I believe he's a tx res

- I like the idea of finding evidence of enl as well. It definitely deflates the "you do it too" argument but it also comes with it's own risks

- I will wait to see the member list. I think being paranoid right now is a good thing. It keeps us from running with it and makes sure we get as much information as possible before acting

- That's weak

- That explains it

- Same

- Over a thousand messages. I'm assuming it blew up because of the lists I saw in the drive. I've notated several I know for sure. There are other names that I know but can't quite pin where.

- It really didn't surprise me to see so many KC and Kansas area res on that list.

- I saw cactus mentioned in here. Tldr? I know of one person who was a big pusher for that bot. I left the person's area TG because of it.

- Oh I know what cactus does. Wasn't sure why it was brought up

- Any bot that can list every portal a person owns no matter where is more than iffy

- I brought that up earlier lol

- I want to pin down the names that I know but can't place but...I don't want to go asking around either.

- It really bugs me. The ones I can't place are most likely nebraska or Kansas

- And gixxrgirl is either Texas or Florida.

- I'm trying to catch up on almost a thousand messages. Apparently I missed that there are these agents on the list 😱

- I can lol haven't said a word to anyone

- How high is the chance that this all gets locked down within an hour of him receiving this notice? That's what I see happening.

- I have a feeling KC POCs are on the list. I need to verify.

- Yes. I identified several KC res last night.

- I just don't know who the anomaly POCs were

- KC enl anomaly POC can tell me who the res POCs were, yes?

- Where can I find this?

- Damn

- With the amount of KC res I saw on there, it's a fair bet POCs are there

- Help me understand why

- This. The more who know, the shorter our time is before it blows

- I can respect this

- Need more people to ping krug?

- Ding

- Also this.

- Can we send her marshmallows?

- Can't have a good bonfire without marshmallows

- Smores would go great with the scotch

- I'd do it

- Just to say, wb changes tg name, everyone she has a chat with will see the new name

- This

- Krug read mine. No response. But then he had 10 of the same lol

- I wonder if after the first 5, he thought "geez, enough already. I'm not reading that"

- Terran was KC POC

- Nevermind.

- I'm getting so grr about this. I think I need to step away

- Where do I see the new names list?

- I did. Were the new names simply added to the existing list?

- ...ok. I'll recheck it in a bit

- On the site, we will have the X for what parts each person on the list is in, yes? Why not add boxes to X for vanguards and Niantic people?

- Should Anatomy of a Hit be the top clickable in the menu? I like it being in the middle to draw eyes but being first on a list speaks too

- Yes

- This is...chilling, irritating, creepy new level stalkerish

- "what else can I get it to do?"

- Chat with WB

- Understood. Not required but if you feel up to it some time...

- Yes. I'm out of words

- The seer part kind of confirms something I've seen discussed about res down voting enl submissions.

- No nitpicking for me. I need sleep. Good work from everyone tonight.

- Will access to the site be given to WB before it goes live as well? She deserves to see it before anyone

- Same but I know better. I'm waiting for the local slack to go nuts...once I say "hey guys check g+" because they don't follow anything for shit

- There's a gif for this but better suited for chatter

- Ok. Bedtime. I look forward to backlog in the morning

- Do we want to put the link to the site on our g+ posts too? And tag tf out of anyone can

- I will keep myself out of being directly being involved in the initial planning of this in my post. More something like "so, I was sent this link to this site and..."

- Agreed.

- I bet they're all running around "do we know how much they know? Who the hell did it?"

- This would be fantastic!

- Think bans could be following? Too much to hope for

- Add that to having an employee on the list...

- Did you give them the files?

- What's done is done. I think I would've given the group here a heads up tho

- And I assumed when it was said you were contacted, you meant recently as in today. Wow

- Why give a release time of noon today if you had let Nia in on it? It had to be known they'd blow it before then

- This. They moved first to get a head start. Plain and simple

- I'm with ya

- This gives Nia the ability to make it look like they found riot and shut it down. There's a spin here.

- I am seriously disappointed in my local enl right now

- The first reaction from local enl "I can't begin to tell you how fake this looks" 😒

- "just read it. Look thru the list. Trust me"

- And locals are pissed. 2nd stage achieved

- Damn I wish I were still in ixf3 now

- I have no idea what I'm going to post. This sucks. It's personal and real to me. I'm angry and want to cry. But at the same time, I'm so overwhelmingly proud to be a part of this group right now

- My loclas said..."no hurry. Take a minute to calm down. You have by far the most and longest history with him" in regards to writing my post and the local on the list

- So much for not having Australian input. I was told a Perth res is on the list

- How openly angry can I be on my post? Lol I'm not sure I can do this and still have it hold any credibility. That is sad

- Someone asked who the Nia employee is on the list

- Yea I said I don't have that information

- [[Photo]]

- Yea as it was said earlier, you can't simply be added to a slack team. You are invited and have to set up the account. There's no denying to say "I don't know how I got there"

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- I'm running late to work myself lol

- Thank you

- Lmao love it

- I am fairly sure my local res will defend the one on the list and say it's all fake. They're used to rallying troops when one of their own is busted

- My post didn't elicit a response from the local offender but a reshare by one of my teammates did. It's great

- Oh I agree but it's the stance that the local offender is taking.

- All the jokes. James has the jokes

- This guy is already a dumbass.

- He said his name got put on some list because he made an enemy. Apparently he hasn't looked at the website link or he would know it's not just some list

- I should link to the reshare where the comments are being made.

- Think we could send them the site link in the report email? "Here. This guy is an admin of a scrapping group"

- Like they want to bait someone into saying they got the wrong one

- I wonder if this is from my local. It doesn't read horribly enough to be him tho. Nevermind

- Understood. I want to let my locals know that as well. They are working on the assumption that it's dead when its not

- Which is sad because there's several techies in my community

- Nice!

- Wow. Think we've caused problems? What's the chance it's res or Niantic trying to break it?

- I have so many backlogs in so many channels and platforms today. I don't know if I want to do it lol

- I don't think my local offender actually looked at the site either. Probably none of the local res have. Which explains why he said he was added to "some list because I made an enemy"

- My response to this was:
You are on a list, not because you made an enemy, but because you are a member of the group Broker's Guild. This is proven fact from the screenshots evidence of the members list on the site. Not only are you a member, you are an admin. That does not happen by chance. There is no denying the evidence. Trying to deflect the allegations by throwing baseless accusations at me and my family only tell me that you have nothing else. Good bye.

- I guarantee he knew. He most likely asked for admin status

- He's a blow hard lying cheater who thinks way too highly of himself NOT to want admin status

- Thank you. The little chicken shit couldn't even comment on my post. He had to do it on a reshare and then tried saying I play my daughter's account. I mean, c'mon, that's the best you got?

- I'll post the reshared post for your entertainment

- I really *really* wanted to lay into him. It took me 7hrs to be able to reply without being snarky

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- Arguing with an idiot is like mud wrestling a pig. It doesn't take long to figure out that one of you is enjoying it

- 😘

- I love seeing res posts and calling their own out.

- I wish my locals were like that

- It's been eerily quiet here. Except for the offender trying to get out of it. I also suspect he was running the bot in their channels. Whether any of them knew what it truly was is to be determined

- That never even occurred to me

- And now Erich regrets mentioning anything 😂

- I'm so sorry. Anything we can help with?

- I'm not sure that my involvement is known. Honestly. Res here don't know what my reach is. I kind of like it that way. They just know I recharge.

- If I were known, he would've pinged me.

- Haha I was thinking this too.

- The hornet's nest has definitely been poked. I'm deeply sorry for anyone who gets caught up in it

- One of my locals said Utah is making shirts lol

- Sorry random

- I actually found something humorous. One of the agents on the list, elusivedream, is a known south Dakota multi account spoofer. He is in a g+ community called ingress cheaters.

- Lol it's actually a community for people to post about other agents spoofing. He's on there complaining about other spoofers

- This. I thought Pitch Perfect 2

- I was right?

- Gtfts

- Ha! I've not seen it. Just the first thing that came to mind for an acronym

- Sure. Public and library and a gathering place lol but res will down vote it if you're in any digests

- Charlie should be sleeping

- Don't blame me if they get denied tho. It's definitely worth a shot

- You didn't know go the fuck to sleep?!

- Some sort of action against the agents in that slack would be nice but it's doubtful. Hell, even having Niantic acknowledge it would be good

- Crazy thought...spin it to impact recharge as well as guardian. Probably not doable but it's there

- So much this. People knowing that there is a Nia employee on that list and no public acknowledgement from Niantic is like they're saying it's ok.

- I know. My brain is on the POCs on the list and how they were so against it. It's not something to combine

- Thing is, it won't stop the use of the program for other purposes.

- Don't they have a way to prevent scrapping altogether or am I too hopeful?

- Go Oprah on it

- If they make it so anyone can scrape or spoof or whatever, it ruins the game. I'm not sure I like that direction

- Waited for someone to get it lol

- I don't like the idea. I guess the thinking would be "well if everybody can do it, I don't want to do it now" but it still just doesn't sit right

- Defining and enforcing.

- Ah ok. Good 😊

- If they set consequences for actions and follow thru with them when given evidence of a rule break, it's not that hard.

- Right now, it's like a weak parent telling their kid over and over again not to do something or they'll be in trouble but never doing anything else

- Their playerbase is a resource that they don't utilize enough

- Hahaha

- How can tos be any clearer on the rules against spoofing and scraping?

- They already spell it out pretty well.

- Unless you're me and forget to play every day lol

- I finally got it after starting over a couple times

- How is this different than me saying enforcing?

- Still this. If we want to go that route, we need to know what we want

- I think I'll go back to being quiet and reading backlog

- In here, they imply that they have worked with Niantic or that Niantic knows. "we have used our resources to assist Niantic in the investigation of...". That could be taken as Niantic knew of this

- Tie that with an employee being on the list too

- I can see Niantic spinning it to say "yes we had an employee in there to investigate spoofing. We had no idea what it really did"

- I agree with you. I'm tired of all the "I didn't know" bullshit. I have much more respect for people who admit when they fucked up than trying to pawn off as being stupid.

- I tell my girls all the time if they're caught doing something wrong, admit it. The punishment is far less severe than lying about it

- You can't be in a slack by accident anyway. We all know this.

- Like the person who claimed he didn't know he was in it.

- "that wasn't me! They messed with the video!"

- To think that they believe the general player base is stupid enough to believe any of their claims is insulting

- Yes it could be. But...they still implicate that Niantic knew

- I have a feeling we are going to be seriously pissed off when pieces are put together

- He will say he did it for the greater good. Let a bit of scraping slide in order to catch spoofers

- How many will simply accept the explanation tho? Because they don't want to believe that he would be that complacent about it. Or that someone enl would be in the know of a res group like this and do nothing. It's a hard pill to swallow. The dumb excuse is easier to accept

- True. We can get ahead

- One of my guys said last night that some of the things our offender said to him make more sense now. One of them being "we put alot of money into this game. Of course we are going to react quickly"

- I like this idea

- Just want something like "hey guys, there's new stuff on the site"?

- Amber, you in WT?

- I never talk in there so it'll be too obvious if I do it

- ?

- Was it put in the ENL general chatter group yesterday?

- Idk who all is in there lol I can put it there and the usa-ishh group

- Done

- Indeed. Keeps people checking back for more

- A local actually posted the Reddit in our slack before I got to it

- That's what I like. "how much more do they have?! Are they still getting info from the leak?"

- And they stay a step behind with their stories.

- Not a single one of my locals has thought to ask how I have such fast information so I'm not having to be vague

- I really like that some people are encouraging this group to look into other things and continue what we are doing. Now if only we could get someone with access to enl.wtf

- Part of me is glad but part of me can't believe how dense they are

- Umm, Ana

- Yea I get that and agree. I guess I'm more disappointed cuz I thought they'd be smarter lol

- I've never actually looked into outgress. I heard people complain about how inaccurate it is and it seemed more irritating than helpful. I notice when I Google names from the list, one of the things that pops up on the results every time is an outgress link tho

- Ugh

- Understood. Well crap. I think I just realized something.

- Yes

- I could possibly if others want to help build the argument

- When I first started, one the local enl leaders asked for people to sign up to forward their attack emails to some other site to help build some sort of map or whatever of statistics of most active areas or whatever. Pretty sure that was outgress now. I had no clue

- I cede to her

- I don't even remember the whole conversation now lol but I do remember signing up. So in a way, I have facilitated the building of outgress?

- These are good

- ?

- Intrigued

- Haha all good. I think I missed it

- Lol you're funny

- People know my stance on cheating and hunting

- I am also too tech dumb to be a good candidate lol

- This just blows all their claims out of the water.

- How can a person seriously accidentally join a slack?!

- Exactly

- "I received an invite but I had no idea what it was so I joined anyway"

- Very nicely done

- How do the ones who claim ignorance combat the ones who are almost bragging about it? The argument doesn't stand up if only some of their people are saying it

- Maybe that should be part of the post? Idk

- "some of you claim it was for this. Some claim ignorance. What about the ones who are openly admitting to being cheating assholes?"

- And yet he's part of a "fielding group that doesn't tolerate cheating"

- He was/is one of the biggest advocates for cactus

- The makers of it went to him so he could bug test it. Runs it in his local TG group...which I left awhile ago.

- You can get cycle scores for anywhere, portal lists of any agent, alerts to frackers flip cards links over a certain distance.

- That's just the in chat bot.

- Apparently it's not working lately, what I've heard. Part of the code or something that it pulls data from is borked? Idk. Idc

- Yes!

- Nasshole was seriously pissed when one of the devs messed up the coding of it awhile back. I found it funny

- Before that but it would be quite a coincidence

- You can have a DM with the cactus bot but unless you're verified, it won't give you anything

- What I've been told, some of the functions need higher V level for access too

- As am I 😔

- Idk if I have my dm still

- I'd have to search back in a chat with nasshole. He said something about needing higher level and access granted because cactus wasn't acknowledging me

- This happens when you aren't verified for cactus lol

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💢 GO AWAY SMURF!

- Oh! You have to have your V profile linked to telegram to use it.

- I do know him. He can be extreme but he also doesn't condemn others for using iitc or TG or slack. He knows what works for him isn't for everybody

- He lives in KC now

- Glyphon isn't the one that does it for you tho

- But I get your point. Should have the correct app for purposes

- Off to check NA

- They altered it after the WP site was updated this morning?

- Oh hmm think they'll try saying "it doesn't say that. The site is lying and making up stuff now"

- It is pretty funny

- So far, all the comments from the offending agents have been reactionary. Building their back story from what we have released. Each new release or development makes them have to alter their story to cover

- He is

- Yea yea

- Am I to understand his comment is highlighting the very real legal consequences of scraping? It definitely seems to hold water too. In that aspect, can it be said that an enl agent in EU could potentially file a suit against them?

- I'm not either but it's an interesting thought

- That's...idk. We have been saying to other posts of the "I didn't use it to be bad" that they were still in bad company.

- And how do you trust that the person won't do it again?

- I would have a difficult time of it. But that's me

- I get that. It was part of my thinking too. She can switch. Rescind her actions. Very little chance I'll ever interact with her so it's whatever. But...there's another side to it as well. Two views to be had. Enl are welcoming and forgiving, good for us. Enl accept known cheaters and are gullible

- Pretty sure she would get invited to enl.wtf

- But I don't like that

- Guess I'm too cynical for it.

- And how many of those are so they can continue business as usual?

- I need to back up here for a minute. She knew it was wrong. She told you about it before WB did anything? Yet she was still in there. She used it. But it's ok because she didn't use it for bad reasons and she apologized? How is this any different from other stories we are seeing from res listers?

- The only difference I'm seeing to warrant the change in how she's being seen vs the other 900 is because you know her

- She still accepted it and participated. Knowingly.

- That's the part that I have difficulty with when someone says they're sorry. I think are they only apologizing because they got caught?

- Including your friend?

- Idk. I still come back how we had Cate write her post debunking the claim that you're now defending

- The first part of that sentence is one of the things we were speaking out about today.

- I have a local of my own enl who has fucked up ALOT and is working his ass off to earn trust again. It's not something simply given because he admitted he was wrong.
I'm having trouble forming words to my opinion. It feels hypocritical in a way.

- I'm meaning in the instance here

- We can't take the stance of "you can't say you used it for good or you didn't use it for bad reasons" and turn around and say "well she didn't use it for bad reasons so its ok to trust her". She has apologized publicly? Is she still in the guild? Has she left and denounced wanting anything to do with them? Saying she called out bad res before is good. Something I'm sure others in the guild have done too so that now they can say the same thing "I'm not bad. I call out the bad guys"

- If she left and did so publicly and apologized, then maybe I could work toward trust. To apologize and stay in sends mixed messages

- I'm sorry. I don't mean to be the one who causes waves and problems.

- There's nothing clean about that slack tho

- You do what you feel is right. I cannot back it but that is my opinion. Too many things don't add up or feel right

- If you say so lol

- It was in VL4 too

- No. They had a disagreement about something. Can't remember what.

- Are those enl owned guardians?

- Ooh

- Would be nice to know who sent the person that map

- Riot is supposedly still down tho, yes?

- If this is true, they are having to use other means

- Yes

- We also know there are unnumbered amounts of unknown communities that were running it too.

- The map is?

- Why is that a problem? We want to expose both sides anyway, right?

- This could be the first breadcrumb to finding that

- What's the agent name?

- As in, we all agree that we go after an enl program the same way we are going after riot?

- My opinion: these tools are faction neutral. It's cheating. It's scraping. It should be called out

- That's why I called it the first breadcrumb :)

- It's not much but it's a start

- So where do we go from here?

- You said their map had 65 views? Is it safe to say if they are killed it was one of those 65?

- That would not be good. Hey maybe you'll get an invite lol

- True

- Nadia confirmed it was down...for now earlier today

- She got that from one of the listers.

- This. Everybody cheating

- I have a few close Aussie contacts. But if found any of them are involved in something like this, done

- I understand that

- I'm trying to figure out the different colored pins. Green and red. Any ideas?

- I wondered that. No way to tell

- Says I'm verified but nothing there

- I had access to the same thing Erich did. I do not see any tools anymore. It's been said I have been under the radar. Nobody knew I was involved except in here

- He said he received messages from someone he trusts on the matter

- And the people be removed were removed because of it

- It wasn't everyone. Only certain people.

- He thinks there's a chance that some people only got access to infiltrate and expose the tools

- Apparently people have been sharing screenshots out of the ops chat too. I'm not involved in that. That along with whatever he was told has them all paranoid

- But to have those of us who are in anomaly ops get access revoked is too convenient.

- At the moment, he only suspects people of being involved. If one of us approached him, it would be confirmed and I don't think he would be convinced that we aren't trying to steal or expose them

- Ok here's my thing:. If someone in here is not comfortable with what we are doing, then they should say so and get out. Not run around telling things to other people

- This. To tell someone that there are people who want to expose those tools is ridiculous

- Whether we want to preserve that or not is past being an issue. It is apparently already known that I'm here so leaving doesn't do any good. I simply wish that whoever felt the need to say anything outside of here would've had the decency to stand up.

If I thought anomaly tools were needing reported, I wouldn't be an anomaly op. Period.

- I'm not leaving but I need to step away. I'm so beyond irritated. Not at losing access to tools but at the thought that someone in a trusted group said or did something that resulted in the loss instead of speaking up. Idk if that's truly the case but it feels like it

- If that's true, I'm severely disappointed

- It's been said multiple times if anyone here disagrees with what is discussed or has an issue with the path, they should say something or they should bow out.

- I do feel betrayed. By a group that I didn't expect it from. A leak is understandable? Someone going directly to an anomaly tools Dev and saying people want to expose tools and possibly giving names is understandable? Someone telling their best friend or closest enl agent that they are part of the anonymous group behind the big res exposure is understandable

- That part I could understand because I wanted to say something so badly to someone. Anyone. Because I was proud of what we were doing.

- What I feel has happened isn't understandable

- It's just coincidence that those of us in here with access to tiernan tools were the ones removed?

- Oh I do not doubt your chain, hun.

- Thank you. I have articulation problems too lol

- Doesn't even show I'm verified now. At least earlier it said I was verified lol

- Honestly, the only reason I got access was for the chat colors. Every time I'd log into my anomaly profile on chrome it would tell me to contact him for the colors again

- When he first posted for people to request access, he had other tools on there. He has to grant you access other than the first door to see all of them

- It can do more than that