- i feel a bit of this too. but you all know much better what something valid and real looks like

- I am thinking about this too

- I can imagine a res "double your efforts troops! response in Chicago, in addition to a balls out attempt to find any and all dirt on whatever our side is doing

- And I am not saying this is necessarily negative, but should we consider local fallout?

- You mean just hunting? How else? I am genuinely asking.

- What defines Elite?

- is there value to doing that work and having it at the ready but not simultaneously releasing it?

- i honestly don't know, i am just throwing out any question i can think of that might come at us

- amen

- I don't fault teammates who want to GH, but it in my experiences just causes so much bad behavior and ill will, and there are a few players in my area who would be totally lost without it. I would not mind watching that. Perhaps I am going to the special hell.

- ah yup.

- well, i do know. mine would burn every portal owned by anyone they think might have been involved with having the badge removed or revealing the scraping etc.

- Did i miss the answer to this question? I think it matters too. Sorry catching up fast between meetings,

- Again asking because i honestly don't know. But how much difference does a 10/23 versus a 10/31 release make? it seems like we will certainly be asked "how long have you known about this"

- I get that part, just was not sure how much difference a few days makes. But you answered with your spin response.

- This discussion is so impressive, but i am going with sourpatch kids as "happy i scrolled all that back moment"

- I will take that bet

- i am pretty sure i can eat an entire bag of sourpatch kids. over the course of one movie. #offtopicftw

- except your soul

- Terrifying

- I mean my couch is easy to spot and has been for a long time, but....*shudder*

- How much do we tell the people we trust/add before we add them?

- Maybe a new channel

- Mkay

- Is there something to be said for people from every region presenting the same message at the same time?

- I...have never used Reddit. Am I kicked?

- Pin the link?

- Oh man

- This...

- Deep breath

- This

- Ok I have added what I know. I will look with fresh eyes tomorrow

- Ohai. Good morning 900 message backlog

- I have not read all of this but the fundraising aspect of this has me gobsmacked.

- And this morning I am wondering if the majority of local resistance in Chicago know about this and choose not to go there, or if they simply don't know about it.

- And I am a little nervous that the revelation of this will be but a ripple here. No names on the list will be surprising.

- I don think all.

- Perhaps I think of leadership differently

- I apologise. I don't mean to argue, and I am not defending the disasters. It's an issue here on many levels, no question. I am just bristling at the general idea that my own efforts to be leader here have counted or nothing because I am not part of the group that is cheating. That is on me, not anyone here.

- damn, i was hoping a couple of hits by chicago players to portals of mine in florida would come up

- Agreed

- Do you mean all anomoly pocs, or just the ones coming up in November December?

- So this. i have been thinking it all morning.

- heh

- ding

- [[Photo]]

- Sending messages to Kruk put us at that risk.

- Andrew has not read my message

- Just got a look at inside brokers guild. Holy hell y'all. 💚

- EpsilonPrime being anatomy of a hit is personally delicious.

- Boy oh boy does that doc make me sick to my stomach

- There was.

- Antici....pation

- Agreed. SO much amazing work has happened. I am completely humbled to be able to witness it. Tomorrow things might really be different and a lot of people we care about are going to feel deeply betrayed and angry. Step away from all of this if you can and get fresh air.

- I have 2 you can rent for cheap

- 😈

- Seconded

- for some reason it it asking me to request another invite ugh

- did someone say cleangress as a tinyurl?

- yes

- Having WB confirm the time of shutdown may actually be useful

- @theprevaricator define opsec people

- posting reddit in local chats

- yeah it was like...a few minutes? no big.

- i am being asked what the source is.

- i have more chicago names to add too if we are doing that

- wowzers

- for sure

- right? same.

- does this in fact warrant a press release? io9? Buzzfeed?

- engadget, techcrunch, ars technica

- ooh i have a good one

- heh.

- The xfac Chicago hangout was also just whistling banter

- A few people joined it and were probably disappointed

- They sort of need us to have iitc if they want to have dynamic anomalies

- Imo

- Eep I am sorry @TheRealVedorian .

- Holy shirt seriously??

- Wow

- Your face goes to sleep

- Sings?

- I just backlogged really fast so I apologise if I missed this. Is there a pr spin regarding guardian we can put on this to a wider audience that makes sense? "Beloved game with fatal flaw, leads to massive rule breaking"?

- Or something. Is there a hook that would lead to more widespread exposure and more pressure on Niantic? And if so what is it? The scale of the scraping? The fact that guardian makes no sense with the rest of the game? The fact
that WB came forward?

- I have had no coffee so have no idea if this is a good idea. But is there a way to give this traction in the ingress or gaming world equivalent to athletes doping in sports? Players having an unfair advantage and what should Niantic do about it?

- I don't know enough about marketing and pr to k ow what the hook is, but maybe there is something

- Yes, perhaps that is the story with WB's pov and what prompted them to come forward.

- With acknowledgement that both sides use tools like this.

- And pointing a light back to Niantic to make a change?

- @theprevaricator ChiEnl is comparing this to an episode of Mr. Robot. This group is doing something right.

- yup

- to the point i say wait until Monday for new content

- same. i think a couple of people suspect but no one is asking me.

- I think I am fine with it. I don't want to skirt the truth so I would rather not be asked

- Anybody have contacts for media and/or press release experience?

- Fair point

- yesterday i had to remind people a few times in Chicago that just because they did not see someones name in the list it did not mean they were not using the tool. I think it is starting to sink in more today.

- this.

- and how could the post not get that we were attempting to protect the identity of WB?

- Wow I missed a lot.

- 😘

- I have never heard of it

- Many disasters are in Chicago, and I would definitely NOT lump them all together

- I have some disaster insight if anyone wants to dm me . I don't want to slander them as a group. They are not a cohesive group.

- Thanks for letting me mostly observe and learn. You are an incredible group of peeps.

- Same