- I made a copy

- Says right there: "gave me a map that can't be legal."

- in the throwaway account

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- Oh.

- Bunch of guardians for "Appastair" presumably

- Is that an agent?

- I dont know

- Yes

- just guessing

- Google gives hits on that shitty ingress-Intel site

- You know them?

- No

- Is this person looking to see who pings @appastair on comms?

- Because don't

- theres 96 map points here

- I dont think that shitty site does this good a job

- No but it tells you if they are a player

- ah

- this is home turf for some people we know

- this could get personal

- Meh

- I’m a riot user

- I pull a random blue players portals and make a map

- ?

- these are distributed over a few hundred miles

- oh!

- I se

- you think this is subterfuge

- a clever rouse

- Dear Erich, will you please light my cause on fire with your magic? 🐲

- my maps is pretty generic

- A mymap is not a guardian hunting system

- I'm so horribly backlogged right now but have we discussed contacting the developer who kinda publicly quit and borked cactus awhile back? I bet we can find that catfight in VL3+ global and get his perspective on the ENL side.

- "it looks a lot like riot" ... how are we supposed to know that?

- no, they're wrong about that. This doesnt look at all like riot.

- at least not anything we saw

- other than guardian data

- can anyone pull these up to confirm its even accurate?

- This one checks out

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- The fight wasn't about ethics right?

- the original map

- had 65 views

- Happy to crucify cactus

- Please get me screenshots and links

- thats a lot of refreshing to make a convincing case

- (I went for the first one in the list that looked like it had a unique enough name to return quickly. I can look up a couple of others if we think there's a need for it)

- its not enough to do anything about on its own

- If they get killed.

- yea, if they get killed.

- I can share the copy I made, maybe we can get it into bookmark data and watch?

- Should we save the list and check back later?

- Heh ok, I guess so

- And we can cross the who kills them bridge when we get there

- Can you download the location list we can dump into a spreadsheet and make Intel links out of it?

- Its exportable as KML

- but that doesnt directly become bookmarks

- This is your copy right? Just want to triple check...

- My copy, 1 view

- their copy 65 views

- πŸ‘

- It was in VL4 too

- No. They had a disagreement about something. Can't remember what.

- Thats a good idea

- Are those enl owned guardians?

- RES owned

- Res

- Ooh

- You can definitely use riot to look up your own guardians

- Or any player's

- Would be nice to know who sent the person that map

- Riot is supposedly still down tho, yes?

- I dont know who sent it

- but im checking on map ownership

- If this is true, they are having to use other means

- if its them.

- Yes

- ok...

- We also know there are unnumbered amounts of unknown communities that were running it too.

- We've got a full fledged problem on our hands

- its owned by an ENL

- What is?

- The map is?

- the original map

- Why is that a problem? We want to expose both sides anyway, right?

- We do.

- But now we're going past theory into practice.

- You recognize the email address?

- This could be the first breadcrumb to finding that

- Its an australian I have never heard of

- but they have .rocks and have attended anomalies before

- I think we need to establish some protocols here, to avoid conflicts of interest if we find something unsavory.

- What's the agent name?

- As in, we all agree that we go after an enl program the same way we are going after riot?

- like, I dont think I should give the name till we see what this is, so we can investigate dispassionately.

- My opinion: these tools are faction neutral. It's cheating. It's scraping. It should be called out

- 100%

- Me too. I just dont want anyones personal connections to get in the way of that.