- Double check it. I don't see author there.

- ahh, ok

- Hmm

- Let's see if we can wayback this.

- Yes we can. Let me complete *that*

- lol

- Psh, that fails. Wait, I got a fallback

- Patreon archives for crap. :D

- Yes that’s possible, even expected. Mostly the reason I thought it was a bad idea.

But it also establishes a clear link from Niantic into this - if the employee was there for research purposes why tip off the res. The tip off occurs only when they know they’re doing wrong.

- interesting. RIOT was taken down, only devs have access to it right now.

- We had someone local get hit at 9:30pm last night

- One of the power couples listed.

- Yes, RIOT is not down and I suspect all the local bots are working fine. If there's been any disruption it is to front end access.

- thats what im saying

- Every one of them knew they were doing wrong when they joined that Slack. And I buy the story they were there only for research purposes as much as I buy the we only use this to catch spoofers bullshit.

- Just because Riot is down doesn't mean people didn't pull target lists 2 days ago

- OK, Patreon pages and GDocs pages don't archive worth a crap. :D

- I can tell you my local hunter would have to pull my list days ahead of time he plans to go on the hunt due to driving distances and times

- If they really were doing research, why were they sitting there idling watching shit tons of ToS breaking behavior go on all around them and just allowing it to continue?

- Can and did archive the deployment form.

- The PDFs of Web pages are as good evidence as screenshots of Slack channels, I don't think we need a stronger evidence chain here.

- ok

- I agree that this is all good stuff

- and evidence chain is good

- can we report this to patreon?

- is it against their TOS?

- In here, they imply that they have worked with Niantic or that Niantic knows. "we have used our resources to assist Niantic in the investigation of...". That could be taken as Niantic knew of this

- That might be worth pointing out publicly.

- in fact

- Jerrys screengrab on that G+ post

- Tie that with an employee being on the list too

- may incriminate krug has having prior knowledge

- I can see Niantic spinning it to say "yes we had an employee in there to investigate spoofing. We had no idea what it really did"

- Or trigger Niantic to actually disavow this nonsense. I'm still convinced Niantic (whether Krug or the employees) tipped off the RES. Implying Niantic supported it in that email might force stronger condemnation and distancing from Niantic.

- I don’t think it violates Patreon's TOS

- I’m so sick of people claiming ignorance. Or coming up with some sort of white knight explanation.

I’d be more understanding if people who say they don’t hunt admitted they fucked up by staying in there and moved on.

- Also I think the patron will go down in about an hour

- I agree with you. I'm tired of all the "I didn't know" bullshit. I have much more respect for people who admit when they fucked up than trying to pawn off as being stupid.

- The RES convo shared earlier here makes it clear - you weren't in this slack by accident.

- I tell my girls all the time if they're caught doing something wrong, admit it. The punishment is far less severe than lying about it

- You can't be in a slack by accident anyway. We all know this.

- Yes, but we need to make sure people realize that when they see that bullshit excuse.

- Like the person who claimed he didn't know he was in it.

- It’s like pleading not guilty to a shoplifting charge when there’s a freaking video showing you stuffing stuff under your shirt and walking out. It’s insulting that they think they concocted explanation could fly with anyone.

- Or this could be complete and utter bullshit and subterfuge.....

- "that wasn't me! They messed with the video!"

- It probably is but since I dont trust Niantic to begin with it forces them to say somethign about it rather than ignore it.

- [[Photo]]

- To think that they believe the general player base is stupid enough to believe any of their claims is insulting

- so krug saw scanner emulation

- guid is right on there

- That screenshot has been public for a while.

- just saying we can put two and two together

- Yes it could be. But...they still implicate that Niantic knew

- Yeah

- So they sent Krug screenshots right out of RIOT?

- OMFG

- I have a feeling we are going to be seriously pissed off when pieces are put together

- Do we know where they’re talking? Looks like slack

- Yea Jerry posted that shit publicly because he is an idiot

- Yeah, that's Slack.

- OMFG

- Occam's Razor says "Krug isn't very good at community management and come on, enl.io."

- I am hiding in the bathroom atm and gasped out loud

- TBH, Krug seeing a screenshot of scraping and not acting on it puts him in the bag for the RES too.

- We may have to keep putting pieces together and connecting the dots for public consumption.

- Yes, please make easy to learn for dummy agents like me.

- Seriously, I am not a tech guy.

- He will say he did it for the greater good. Let a bit of scraping slide in order to catch spoofers

- Objective observers will know that's bullshit.

- True. Either way, Niantic needs to say something. Either say it's true and attempt to explain, or publicly deny false accusations.

- But putting him on the spot isn't a bad thing.

- Well, he was happy to be on vacation when this all hit... whoops.

- How many will simply accept the explanation tho? Because they don't want to believe that he would be that complacent about it. Or that someone enl would be in the know of a res group like this and do nothing. It's a hard pill to swallow. The dumb excuse is easier to accept

- Who controls the narrative right now? Objectively, we do. Let's get info out there that drives the conversation. Once Krug is back and Niantic starts talking they'll take control.

- ok

- [[Webpage]]brokersguild.wordpress.com/follow-the-money/

- Please spot check this before I index

- Checking, thanks

- True. We can get ahead

- [[Webpage]]https://brokersguild.wordpress.com/patreon-reward-tiers/ — those aren't Patreon-linked, the Patreon ones are slightly different. Just Reward tiers, probably.

- rgr

- Mssing close paren after the archive.is deployment form link

- Thats all I see.

- rgr

- Thanks!

- Content wise it is good. We should consider how to update people on this - another reddit post saying more info has been posted?

- I'll put it in the menu with New! tag like mail was

- reddit probably good, and some chat dumps

- Yeah

- [[Photo]]should this be past tense?

- no, release as a noun

- k

- Maybe for emphasis bold the line, "It remains unclear how a farm..."

- lol, thats how I originally did it

- On the basis so many of them want to hang their hat on that.

- then I unboldened to increase dryness

- Hah, yeah, I like the dry.

- One of my guys said last night that some of the things our offender said to him make more sense now. One of them being "we put alot of money into this game. Of course we are going to react quickly"

- but, as far as release

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