- The public facing spreadsheet should not include AO or our notes.

- Agreed.

- Thank you.

- We should probably advise WB and see if it gets back to that slack.

- Only a list of names for each of the three major apps? Or just one big list?

- I like one list

- If we just had one exhaustive list we won't even need a spreadsheet. Could just be text

- This thing right here

- Did I miss site selection or who is working on the page?

- Yes. I'm on team no map

- Yes. She anticipates data completion today.

- There's more?

- Yes. With you. Will do.

- Hey is RIOT an acronym?

- Yes. I am STILL catching up :) give me a bit.

- It feels like it must be

- Resistance is on top?

- Resistance insists on turnkey?

- One hour warning on Krug notification. Derail that now if you feel that you should.

- The site man, who is making the site.

- Bingo. Seems to me they'll root him or her out sooner or later, but we shouldn't help them by making it obvious.

- Resistance Intel Operator Toolkit?

- I'm just spitballing but I bet it's something like that

- Either you or me, I think, based on discussion so far.

- Pretty good guess.

- Resistance Intel, Over. Toast.

- Lol.

- Be advised in the AMA he said he was backlogged almost 500 messages. Unless you send something that gets his attention he might miss it. Even though I think it’s a bad idea, if you’re going to do it at least make it fair. :)

- I'm pretty ok with him missing it.

- Res Idiots Overreach Together

- @Semiotiq, can we get the language of what's going to Krug as well as how it's getting to him? Email? Private G+ post? Chat medium of some sort?

- Well, if he misses it, that's not our problem. The clock was ticking. Will have been ticking.

- I will recruit some help to ensure that his attention gets got.

- 😆

- I am not ignoring your objections. I feel your argument strongly. Ultimately though, I feel that one of the most valuable long term things we can do with this project is effect culture change, including within Niantic. That is easier if we show them basic regard.

- I know you’re not. Decision is made, I’m not aruguing it - just be fair if you’re giving him notice.

- Ok, dibs.

- Are we gonna start a timer from 1pm to see how long it takes before a full intel lockdown? 😉

- We also need to finalize a list of enl who will get advance notice.

Thinking anomaly POCs, lead ops, vanguards, and maybe handpicked regional POCs.

- Multiple people with names he will recognize sending the same very simple message.

Not word for word..but like..


We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Niantic employees, investors and Vanguards are identified. We will release it sometime after noon on Thursday the 19th. The team agreed that we should provide you a chance to prepare.

- He's gonna flail in vanguard chat if he gets that.

- Give him those 5-6 names.

- Open to suggestions

- 👍

- I think that if I give him names, WB access to ongoing data will be prematurely compromised.

- Any way to reasonably anticipate how Krug and/or Niantic may react?

- Yep

- I think that will happen if you don't

- A couple of minor edits:

"We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Niantic employees, investors, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs are identified among those agents involved. We will release the information sometime after noon on Thursday the 19th. The team agreed that we should provide you a chance to prepare."

- I would not give him names. He can ask the vanguards to self identify imo - but that blows it open.

- How high is the chance that this all gets locked down within an hour of him receiving this notice? That's what I see happening.

- It's the first thing hell do if you don't give him names

- Oh I should probably add anomaly pocs to that laundry list too

- #notice

- I have a feeling KC POCs are on the list. I need to verify.

- Do you have access to the documents?

- I don't know Charlie, there's no scenario in my mind where Krug can do anything useful other with or without names. And anything he does blows it wide open.

- Maybe this is a no win

- Yes. I identified several KC res last night.

- I just don't know who the anomaly POCs were

- I think we are just telling him to clear his calendar

- Agree,

- I just assumed Resistance Intel Operative Tool.

- Then err on the side if less info.

- The win is showing him some regard.

- So he can do less damage.

- I personally wouldn't pre-release to ENL, btw

- It creates the problem of "why wasn't I on the list"

- If that’s the case then perhaps be less specific about The Who - state that it is several different types of people who are close to Niantic.

- You know there are people who will want to have known

- And good luck identifying all the anomaly POCs

- "opsec"

- Yeah. I only wanted to do this if we were going to go with simultaneous distributed g+ release

- Ok, how about US.

- KC enl anomaly POC can tell me who the res POCs were, yes?

- But you're privileging cities based on where Niantic chose to have an anomaly.

- I'm not saying exclusively.

- Just as a start for the list

- Done. Target Thursday at 1 pm eastern for earliest possible goLive

- Perhaps something along the lines of “we will be releasing information about a large RES scraper network tomorrow after 1pm. While reviewing the information we found some people in trusted roles. Please be prepared to respond tomorrow afternoon. No further information is available at this time”

- If we're telling him to clear his calendar, just start with that and that alone. "Something big" is on the horizon which is probably going to need his attention.

- There's a public list

- If I were Krug, I would appreciate knowing who and what. If I got something with "something big" I would ignore it.

- If it gets his attention, go from there. If it doesn't he can be surprised with everyone else.

- why are we notifying anomaly PoCs in specific?

- Same reason as Krug.

- What I'm flailing at: assume positive intent. if Krug/Niantic *did* want to respond internally in the right way, what would they need in order to do that?

- @ollietronic would you care to do the anonymous Reddit splash?

- they aren't employees.

- Where did that even come from? It's a bad idea.

- But they are trying to do a thing and this will take their time.

- Where can I find this?

- (Honestly, I'm in the "don't give anyone advance notice" boat, but I'm doing my best to be agreeable.)

- They’d probably want all the evidence quietly so they can digest it and determine how hard to smack hands.

- it's only going to take the time of people who choose to participate. or who are implicated.

- Are we? I thought we were just going to post the same g+ message without tagging people

- We're past that now

- They pulled Q3 off it already, boo

- Damn

- I think there's just a misunderstanding of words.

I was saying I should add anomaly pocs to the list of implicated actors in the message to Krug

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