- What specific thing is pushing your buttons the most?

- wow, how did you find out

- Fuck it, I'm not doing that, I just came too close to doxing that asshole

- It's in the Fundraising doc

- You can get historic logs back to August 2015

- Gold level contribution.

- Who?

- Guy who wrote the tool.

- How did you get into radar chats?

- The screenshots previously shared.

- Ohhhhhhhhh . i seee it now

- I'm mostly just absorbing and thinking.

- the page after the blank one

- Yeah

- Within 48 hours, we're going to have to act. Our cone and trajectory options are pretty narrow, but they'll make a difference.

- I'm still not seeing it

- Schwaller made the ingress ice screenshot tool. figures

- Nah

- He forked the original repo

- ah

- i still dont understand github

- @VAIN_vurxof is right, I think. The most valuable thing we can do is try to use this to effect permanent cultural change. However minute.

- in the Whistle folder, go to RADAR, and in there you'll see three files.

- The one you want is RADAR_EYE_Fundraising.pdf

- go down to 3rd page

- so, 600-900 people. almost all of them pay up $10, $25 a month?

- thats $6k a month.

- But from the fundrasing page it doesnt seem to be that much.

- I'd be gobsmacked if everyone on that slack is paying.

- Yeah, they're not all paying.

- Oh I thought you were talking about the chat

- Most of those 900 are probably bronze

- One time payments are likely the way most went

- The Patreon is a better indicator. Couple hundred bucks a month.

- ya

- How do we release this information in a way slanted to maximize the likelihood of

1) Niantic publicly paying attention
2) Ingress prosumers+ actually changing the way they behave

- I feel bad for Stego

- sort of

- I feel not a hint of sorrow for anyone on that list

- [[Webpage]]YeahYeahYeahsVEVO: Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll

- me either

- Take the high road. We can list all the ways we could have used the information provided to us in an extremely obnoxious manner, but didn't because we're the class acts we are.

- I didn't quite follow this but is there stuff in the docs it would actually be irresponsible to release because it can be used to dox people?

- No matter what comes of this, at the very least the Res are going to have trust issues within there orga after.

- I identified the original author of the program but I am unwilling to release his real name and home city.

- I don't want to know it.

- I am

- you guys are so awesome. im gonna hit the sack.

- Sleep well

- I'll probably wake up at 3am eagerly checking in

- ❤

- Haha. You can't make it 3 hours!

- I'm just catching up on the radar thing, this absolutely confirms something we believed for a long time that they could tell when we put down hacking mods silently

- Yeah, that tech is *amazingly* simple. Fuck Niantic.

- How many times have we told a new agent that placing a mod will not make them show up on player tracker...

- This is why my local r s always accused me of having alerts when I found their farms.

- Because they could

- YES.

- I've been accused of that one.

- Same here

- See, until recently (6 months ago?) I assumed mods did make you show up... heh

- That's accurate enough though. It doesn't show up on standard player tracker.

- So that also means their scraper is actively checking portals individually re:radar

- True. To the average agent you wouldn't show up.

- Wow this is the fucking motherload

- Is there any indication from what folks have seen that they can see when someone hacks a portal with that software? I didn't see anything when I looked, but I might have missed it.

- Can't see hacks.

- You show up on email alerts though.

- OK. Stock intel gets a packet of information about each portal.

- The stuff you see on Intel, obviously.

- Fwiw, the exact wording in the TOS as it currently reads is "extract, scrape, or index the Services or Content (including information about users or game play)" ... this is in the "you agree not to do any of the following" section

#tos

- When a portal is modified, a new packet is sent.

- and when they get the packet they check the portal against last known status

- Yep.

- The packet must include mods on the portal, obviously.

- it's a grep, nothing to it

- Well, not obviously, but it's the right decision

- To be clearer — there is nothing in these docs I wouldn't release. I just won't connect dots.

- I'm infuriated at Niantic for being such a bad custodian of their community.

- They will never understand that they own this, but they do.

- Pretty much.

- I'm infuriated at the Res I just found on radar who lied to my face after the Russell explosion.

- Yes, and yes

- Pretty much.

- That's where I am different from many of y'all. My Res own it. Or at least deny it with a wink.

- It's interesting though, in a way. Niantic's failure to be a good game company, and the extent to which it is a sandbox and the playerbase has willingly promulgated player ownership.... there's an opportunity there.

- I'm trying to figure out if we can force Krug to be an ally

- ok, im done messing with it

- Master is master, enter your data there

- Kind of makes you wonder why RES is still losing series after series.

- now it just looked up the other sheets

- Because tools don't win anomalies

- thank you thank you

- really good work

- You think?

- Interpret my use of the word "tools" however you like 🤣

- 😂

- This will be excellent ammunition to shut down their comm trolling. "Remember when we all saw you using Riot/Radar/#bots?"

- Lovely spreadsheeting. 💚

- Thanks, Erich!

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