- Seems extremely unlikely.

- 👆

- If you were a player first and coded a thing, then got access to the backend and could improve tracking of said thing..?

- It's not necessary. if it's happening I'm sure it will come out. But it seems unlikely.

- Intel scraping can do all the things we've seen

- I scanned the member list very quickly and recognized at least 5 St. Louis and Illinois area players.

- You're talking about Reswar, within Reswue

- The inclusion of start date on the list makes me think otherwise. It makes sense that the tool could track start date of players who joined after the creation of the tool but what if it can provide any players start date? How would that have been obtained?

- This is different

- This is just a friendly reminder that this is all very big news and is going to make very big waves. It's not a firehose , it's a firestorm waiting to happen. Keep it secret, keep it safe, do not leak even a hint of this to your home teams etc... This is going to be a hot mess no matter what and we don't want to burn down our own networks in the course of exposing it. We need to have frank factional conversations about fair tool use, but it's not going to happen in this charged room right now.

- wow. just wow. any chance he's the mole? otherwise, hypocrite!

- She

- How do we know she?

- we dont

- its a euphemism

- [[Photo]]

- How do we know it's even just one person?

- The database of scraped comms data can predate the tool

- It's one google account talking to Charlie.

- Yes

- Nothing is charged, people are allowed to have opinions. We've kicked multiple people out for cheating

- That's all we know.

- Hopefully someone being fem forward

- I was responding that Stego is a she.

- Ah.

- I'm just saying that as much as I want to have that knock down drag out fight, now probably isn't the best time.

- It's not a fight

- And really I'd rather educate our communities from boots up to not fall for scrapey tools and clubs in the first place.

- I think we are all here because we are troubled by scraping.

- We are just working in wildly different contexts.

- 💚

- Like all culture, starts with teaching newbies

- So it's an ingress multilevel marketing dealio?

- That's Reswar, this is different

- Got it, thx

- This is creepier

- Definitely

- Yes, this is big

- It's just a gamification component to motivate people to do things

- Gamifying a video game

- This seem like a anxious room currently, many emotions form discovery and information provided. That is fine. We are all troubled and want to do the right thing and not knee jerk to a snap action. So options will fly and we all will be sorting data and soul searching. In the end think Zen. Everyone take a slow deep breath... we will all think clearer.

- Well, there are only 16 levels and fuckall for endgame that isn't emergent gameplay

- 💚

- Agreed and LOVE YOU ALL

- I am 900 messages behind here because other projects but just want to stay I love you all 💚💚

- The lynch mod mentality should be in the Wuff room only ...of which I am now late for.

- Poor neglected wuff 😔

- Quick question..... as I am a low level nerd...... but does WB have access to the API they are using to run this bot??? I mean closing that down would be more advantageous than getting these hunters banned .... as I suspect many will just start new accounts if the ban hammer falls

- [[🙄 Sticker, size 13'524 bytes]]

- There isn't? Calling someone's behavior inappropriate isn't a lynching

- We suspect not, I think

- #sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LTPhGVZNfUSQyaPz8eq9EO-S1RebKBz6vKIGsIk-g1o/edit#gid=0

- That was earlier, no. It's tracked

- i didnt see an explict no.

- from what i gleaned - im thinking that charlie hasnt asked

- RES are pretty hierarchical. We know WB doesn't have access to the API key for Slack.

- ok

- I suggest this only means they are not admin for that slack.

- Just a Segway to jump to amother room

- If WB was running the bot they'd probably be admin for the slack.

- I have no issue with the conversation here being critical of my choices. I invite it. Perhaps ironically, I think I live pretty honestly for the most part. If I cant defend what I did then I should make better choices

- Wanna see Charlie have an aneurism??? Should I ping the hunter I visiting in the hospital and tell her I’ll flip if I get riot access???

- I don't think he would be the only one.

- But we should focus on what to do about these docs.

- Just joking.........

- I'm gonna say again: there's a really good chance we're going to get people fired. I get it, but bad time for jokes.

- I was straight up offered "everything that the RES had." if I flipped.

- Gross

- Not even considering it.

- They're gross

- I got wine and cigars

- i dont smoke cigars, but hey, I'll bbe right over.

- :P

- Oh, this was years ago. They figured out I wasn't flipping

- Please explain...... people getting fired???

- I never implied that I would, btw

- Vanguards

- Vanguards don't get paid.

- And Niantic employees

- Someone mentioned a known Niantic dev on the list.

- they are "compensated"

- There are paid Niantic employees on the roster.

- What Pongolyn said. Getting caught violating your company's TOS in pubic is a firing offense, generally.

- ew buoy

- In addition to vanguards.

- I know there's a lot of scrollback. That should maybe go in the pinned note.

- @Semiotiq I know that more data is good data, but now might be a good time to ask WB what they want out of all this

- Depending on their value to Niantic it would not surprise me for them to claim they’re a mole.

- Everyone knows Semi's in a meeting right? Just checking.

- nope.

- ty

- Niantic might make the wrong decision for whatever reason, but lying about moles would be an entirely different level of wrong decision,

- Just as a clarification, everything in the brokers guild slack is related to AO tracking and Guardian Hunting, right? There aren't fielding or counterfielding tools associated with this, just player stalking/griefing?

- maybe not mole

- but if they declared it to NIA when hired

- could be immune in a sense

- Save for the all vrla function, I guess?

- Please also recall that this is not just Ingress; this is PokemonGO.

- Yes, there are fielding tools here.

- It was implied that there were mod tracking channels

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