- I don't have a good sense of the impact of posting outside the fishbowl.

Do we think it would scare Niantic? That could be useful.

- Yes I believe it would.

- There is a good chance no one would care about any of this, please be prepared

- Cheating in Pogo is just the game, you look up where the good raids are

- In another universe where Niantic decrees, scraping in Ingress might not be considered cheating at all.

- Yeah. or it may be one day of yammering and then a fizzle.

If Niantic ignore it and the RES ignore it, it becomes a non-story. Interesting dynamic.

I don't think RES will have that much discipline.

- Then just give us an API. :)

- That would be nice, yes.

- I think the Vanguard thing is going to burn.

- "I'm going to keep scraping until you give me an API" is such an unconvincing argument

- Or don't give us an API but tell us you don't have the spoons to care right now, like IITC

- Vanguards and niantic employee are where I'm going to fire my arrows.

- I don't think the Vanguards have been granted enough influence by Niantic to be significantly impacted by this.

- Krug is going to have to decide whether to defend or sacrifice them.

- he's invested in that project

- Defend.

- If he defends them, he's going to take a beating. If he sacrifices them, he's acknowledging the problem.

- well, unless Niantic decides that scraping is now a bannable offense, and bans the vanguards implicated.

- I think its' pretty easy to narrow it down. and if its who i think it is........ krug will be in a bad position.

- let's say if its Stego being the whistleblower?

- If he defends them, he has to do it to the hilt. Dismissing them as Vanguards but not banning them is the worst message ever.

- I have a feeling its a chicago res

- Nah they're just keeping an eye on the scraping and occasionally using it to catch spoofers.

- [[Photo]]

- My prediction of the path of least resistance (heh) is that Krug comes back to work on Monday and ignores as much flying poo as possible.

- Yeah, i saw that - was looking at it from Krugs perpsecitve

- yeah. He's already signaled this.

- That too.

- I intend to make that as difficult as possible

- well, the more easily he can dismiss this as player drama, the better his chances.

- eh, that puts it into catch-22 land. I prefer to choose my own fate.

- that's why I think we don't have much to gain by humanizing this.

- Then what's the right path? You're proposing a no-win situation.

Humanize it, it becomes drama.
Don't, and it quietly goes away.

- the facts will speak for themselves: here's a thing, here's who's using it, is it cheating and if so what is Niantic's response?

- Is it WB's place to humanize it?

- People should interface the content and tell the stories that come naturally.

- That's my decision, I think, near the end.

- the WB interview won't dictate the flow, it'll punctuate.

- I just think it's probably a mistake to lead with "look, we have this person on the inside, click here for all the scandalous things they're showing us." I don't get the impression we are moving strongly in that direction, it's just an observation of a potential hazard.

- Yes, it's not a lead item.

- Keep it simple. No one who's seen the intel dump has failed to come up with the same conclusions on their own, without being led to it.

- We're not saying different things :)

- i added a little hit counter with a custom jib

- XXX people know about The Brokers Guild

- fun!

- I agree with @pongolyn . WB story in another place, after this has spread

- We can't get the roster tab to have a floating header so you can see the labels as you scroll down right? like a frozen row on sheets?

- I tried when I was displaying a sheet in it

- and it wouldnt float

- 👍

- Hmm. Should One Hour And Nine Minutes actually be regular uncapitalized English?

- nerd

- done

- 💚

- ok, check roster

- It keeps the story alive I agree

- Hmm, the title floats but not the headings -- can you get the headings there?

- Right

- And the sheet is instructed to float

- maybe if i found the right embedd code

- Maybe if your mom found the right embedded code

- Oh snap

- that cuts me deep

- Like a knife!

- but I think I like embedded sheet better than list

- even though its not searchable

- yeah you can search on the pages, right?

- insert as a table?

- I can search on the other list

- are you looking at it refreshed?

- i didnt know i had access

- :P

- check your email

- This is too much for me to keep up with y'all - 2200 messages in 24 hours is never gonna make my radar. Please let me know if and when you need my help.
.....18.10.2017 19:30:02, Ginger: >>left group<<

- Ah got it

- for mobile compatibility the boring list is better

- the sheet has to be rotated to horizontal

- [[Photo]]

- Or it cuts off a column

- And it still doesn't scroll right.

- [[Photo]]

- how badly do we need this #raid column?

- the more I look at it the more I think it's unnecessary data

- Are there any new names?

- a few

- it's not intrinsically damning though

- then I think its worth it

- ok

- its not?

- well

- eh.

- I'll follow through. A few more names is good

- is Fev on the list?

- thats worth it imo

- no. He's careful

- it's interesting

- Based on WB, he's very active on the site, but he doesn't dip into any of the especially damning places.

- we can't really afford to go after him, I think

- sorry I mixed that message.

According to WB, he's very active on the slack.

Based on the data, he doesn't dip into any of the damning places.

- Wow. Working on the backlog.

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