- this is 100% Juicy looking for two guardian seeds I planted when we went to see the eclipse in August

- welp

- there's your g+ post

- yup

- they're still live right now, but I'll keep an eye for if/when they go down

- and his list didn't pull up my portals, becuase the whole area is full of old portals

- On this point, Niantic already knows the Nashville PoCs have access to scrapers. They've been reported for their GH behavior by more than one of us. Hell, I had one admit to coming to kill my oldest portals. I said all that to say, that it needs to be more than just a few.

If this isn't as massive as anticipated, and we don't release this the right way, we're going to end up just looking like we're butt hurt over not getting guardians. To be honest, I don't really think Res orga will be disrupted, or even care, that this is released. I've seen too many BRRN agents *actually pull up scraped data* using their bot in ResVue.

- any recommendations?

- My personal opinion is to release it as soon as there's concrete evidence, and the whistle blower is willing to talk directly to Niantic with us. Niantic will need to know who they are.

- That is the problem I ran into. Niantic needs to know where the data was contrived from and by whom.

- That way, all we are doing is giving a non-biased, informative report of ToS violations

- ok thanks

- NOT an exposé of Res scraping.

- Know what I mean?

- I think I understand you.

- It's a subtle difference, but it'll mean lots

- I like this distinction.

- I think it'll impact how the report is perceived.

- Of course, there is the matter of the screenshots being comprehensive and damning, and there being no chance in hell that WB is going to talk to Niantic about it.

- but we'll make do with whatever presents

- We don't want to make martyrs out of them

- WB could be guaranteed anonymity within Niantic.

- I'm guessing

- I could introduce that into the conversation with Krug tomorrow

- Niantic has already proven, repeatedly, that they can make arbitrary decisions without revealing why.

- So maybe, they'd keep *how* they know under wraps

- I think it's an unreasonably high bar. The screenshots don't leave anything at all to the imagination.

- but sure, I can try

- won't hurt

- Krug is a good litmus test for this. Yes, he's Enl, but he's also a fair and impartial jury. He'll shoot straight with you on what can and can't be done

- if I'm WB, my response is going to be 'Um, there are Niantic employees on this list, but I'm supposed to think I'll be anonymous? Yeah....'

- not to mention the RES vanguard

- Is there Niantic staff on that list?

- yeah.

- see backlog

- Got it

- Sorry, with time difference I keep getting stuck in back log land

- Yes, and it's a very noisy backlog

- But it's the price of admission :)

- Back log of this chat, or the other?

- Everything has been here for about the last .... 13 hours

- Rgr

- Let me get coffee.

- you're going to need it.

- Lol...I'm not sure where to start. Did you hashtag a place like last time?

- If not, I'll just run through the 1k+

- It's been a long day.

- the pin has the highlights, probably

- but you're not going to have a real understanding without doing the reading.

- 👍

- I just finishing peeking through the media. Not for coffee and then back scroll.

- Can anyone in here? 😳😳

- You'd be amazed at how long a group of people can hide a murder. I would imagine this would be something similar. "Partners in crime, so to speak".

- Again, I caution against our approaching this as "Look! Here's proof they guardian hunt!"

We know they do, what's important to demonstrate in the post is HOW they are doing it. There is nothing in the ToS that says you can't hunt. There IS something there that says you can't scrape data. THAT is how we should approach this.

I would suggest keeping the two crusades separate. It'll have greater impact with the larger community. Just my $0.02 on that part.

- I'm with you on this as well. I'm still highly suspicious of the WB's motives. It seems they have a lot to lose, and very little to gain, with being exposed. So why now? Why us?

- [[☝ Sticker, size 50'870 bytes]]

- Protease dissolves the tissue, but it readily grows back. Anything that's highly acidic will do this. Pineapple is just one of the more acidic ones.

- lol you've got a LONG way to go :)

- bedtime for moi. goodnight, monsters. Nice work today.

- I'm noticing. I'm commenting on some things just to keep a place marker

- Lots not even get into what my "heat map" might look like....lol.

- I saw that too.

- He's Enl.

- Agent1484, dukenukem785 (Nashville PoC), Hamtary (NLE PoC of Lyon meet up), Ethan isn't in there, thank God. It would've made the rest of this trip extremely awkward. 😐

Jab8288, Jinxs, loveyoume, nxorable, .....I know MANY of these names

- I'm disappointed to see Zorig in there. :(

- And some of the others....😢

- Are we the ones putting in the notes? Or are those coming from the WB?

- I'm still up, it turns out.
Notes are us.

- Got it. I'll add in on those.

- the comments are a fun read

- I'm going to get to have the most wonderfully awkward conversation in my Guardian 2.0 group in a few days.

- Question

- Can we prove some of the notes?

- I'm going to add another column called 'notes notes'

- ask anything you like there

- Like, "scr33n being a Niantic investor"

- added 'metanotes' and 'metametanotes'

- y'all have fun

- And there's Niantic devs listed, but only with description of having created a Navarro portal. Well, didn't many agents do that?

- Damn it. This is going to take a lot of time. Lol. I'm still making original notes, much less to comment on others.

- 😱

- There's a question of how much you want to question every little thing.

The comments on sc33n are from @strandit

The comments on slackfarmer are from @vain_vurxof

- they both know what they're talking about. This is a trust community. /shrug

- I didn't question if they know what they're talking about. I'm asking if we can *prove* it.

- what do you need, a W-2?

- It's not what we know, it's what we can prove.

- I'm not talking about ME.

- sworn testimony?

- Jesus

- Ok, well on behalf of whatever entity you're advocating

- I'm not being flip

- I'm advocating on behalf of US

- what constitutes proof?

- Everyone in here

- If we go throwing that around, we damn well better be prepared to prove it

- If not, we're going to look like morons

- That's what I'm saying

- VAIN got slackfarmer drunk in Navarro and picked his brain about the easter eggs implemented on the redacted portal. Is that proof? probably not.

- does that mean slackfarmer isn't a Niantic dev? uh...no.

- I have no idea if he is or isn't.

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