2017-10-21
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πΊπΈ]
I'm sad. We had work to do
SP
Space TooFar - Rochester NY
Okay, that's fair and I respect that. But I have to say that makes me question doing anything important with the possibility that it could happen again. Chris fucking got doxxed.
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Charlie Arnold
Swarms are temporary by nature. Part of the job is knowing when to dissolve, and how to reform.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
I have some disaster insight if anyone wants to dm me . I don't want to slander them as a group. They are not a cohesive group.
SP
Space TooFar - Rochester NY
I definitely will, thank you
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Charlie Arnold
Swarm Dissolve 10/21/2017 7:00 PM Eastern
Grab whatever history you feel like you need to gang, this swarm has hit EOL. We did a good job, and we'll do more of them in the future.
Everything Will Be Fine.
Grab whatever history you feel like you need to gang, this swarm has hit EOL. We did a good job, and we'll do more of them in the future.
Everything Will Be Fine.
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SCLori
This is scary and sad :(. But agreed, maybe best to end this. We do still have work to do, but we did a hell of a lot and I'm proud to have worked with all of you on this π
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πΊπΈ]
Lori is so right. Love you awesome nerds
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
Thanks for letting me mostly observe and learn. You are an incredible group of peeps.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Glad to be of some help. Take care folks.
matt - deaf1 - maine left group 13:22:22
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Mantispidae - west tn
Thanks for letting me be part of it, even if life and work made me mostly useless.
Mantispidae - west tn left group 13:23:16
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Space TooFar - Rochester NY
Yeah. Same. I'm the mantispidae of Rochester.
JE
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Charlie Arnold
Word is that everyone in this room got removed from Bovine Ethology. Can people check and confirm?
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I think I left it a couple weeks ago
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I left it a while back.
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AnAmerican
Whatβs that?
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Charlie Arnold
A restricted access toolkit. It has a lot of functions, I don't know them all. I coveted the one that lets you pull total MU for a field construct with a single click, for a while.
PO
Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
load up Yackety Sax
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Charlie Arnold
but, eh. whatever. It's just bells and whistles.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I haven't checked into it in a long minute, but its most interesting aspect IMO was that it demystified how MU is actually calculated, largely from user-submitted field data.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πΊπΈ]
Huh, that actually is vaguely interesting. Never heard of it before today
ST
Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Yeah. The shaky bit is the scraping for MU counts.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
Same
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
This is distressing. I thought we had more trust in here than that.
PO
Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Is Tiernan a BE dev? I have no idea.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I don't *think* so.
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
I'd forgotten about that one. I knew about it but never sought access because the numbers never interested me beyond what popped up as the fields were established. I know it's scrapery but my impression was that it was a narrowly focused research project. I hope it's not shutting down but I get the worry.
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Charlie Arnold
That's not a reasonable expectation. This is not solely a TGR group, and spinning it off of the main changed the nature and tenor of the conversation.
We brushed up against very hard topics about which people have very strong opinions.
Leaks were to be expected. Once they occurred, extraordinary reactions were to be expected.
We brushed up against very hard topics about which people have very strong opinions.
Leaks were to be expected. Once they occurred, extraordinary reactions were to be expected.
Much of the content from the room ended up facing D0gboy and Sarah New in real time. Foggy was talking about it. There was a lot of finger wagging and stern dadding. It was pretty humorous, tbh.
I'm sure they'll read this too.
Fuck 'em.
Fuck 'em.
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
There's a big difference between talking about what was going on to the "wrong" people and leaking, and sharing screenshots. Maybe I should be mad. But I'm just sad and disappointed.
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Charlie Arnold
It's just a reasonable expectation. People have competing loyalties and we can't all possibly share the same ideals on something as polarizing as this stuff.
It doesn't matter. The team did the job. We completed a vast amount of work and achieved a dramatically positive result in a short period of time. It could't have happened any other way.
Swarms have a lifespan. It's ok. Please don't try to witch hunt, or get all angry or betrayed. People do what people do.
Swarms have a lifespan. It's ok. Please don't try to witch hunt, or get all angry or betrayed. People do what people do.
We'll just re-form and hit it again from another angle. It's the nature of these things.
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Pappy DeLong
Confirmed that this morning yes