Whistle Orga

No one outside this room knew.

I'm not familiar with this link, or at least my new laptop isn't. What is it?

Tiernans distribution point for plugins

Someone else who had access login.

Are any plugins listed?

Jesus fucking Christ.

I don't even know what that site is

I'm not doing this. This is too sensitive to be done in this room now.

classic cool kids club

heh

Yep. Fuck it

Im out.

We could have done great things.

I miss Erich

It's the middle of the night on a Friday. Let's be cool.

Everyone breathe

Does he think he was outed by this room or does he think he was set up by the anonymous Australian Emailer?

Everything is fine. Erich needed to be in a different space for a while. There is no drama.

we can comfortably carry on.

Um well

Im gonna drop this. I dont have much to contribute

Best of luck

We should calmly discuss this

yeah

What do we think is happening?

Did anyone else in here have access to that site he linked?

I've not heard of it

Lots of back channel conversations, I think.

I didn't click to check

We've been saying dangerous things, and various people in various precarious positions are starting to freak out.

/shrug that was inevitable.

I talked to Erich, and he's ok. He just needed to be somewhere else for a while.

Yes and it's no reason to panic

Ok good

I hope he is ok

I think he is. Just protecting sanity.

Do we know that there are leaks tho?

He's had a hell of a day x 3 days

We know Krug/NIA Ops got a heads up

But that's not a leak

Well, that was more of an intentional leak

KNOW? no, but it's inevitable. We haven't really been on lockdown since we went live. This group is large, and the people are wellc connected. People are talking, which was to be expected.

We know the technological sophistication of our opponents in riot

We know they mad bro

We know they are actively attacking whatever edge they can find

NIA ops got about a 12 hour heads up. Specifically, one op. Krug got 24 hours

I think it's entirely possible the Aussie sent that email to more places than just the website email.

I think it's likely that they will be trying hard to stir us up behind the scenes

Sew doubt and paranoia

We've been talking about a few days of the inevitability that the people on this endeavor will get attacked. If you haven't switched to two-factor authentication on all of your things yet, please get on that.

It's their playbook

Yes for sure

I have no idea what he got removed from but I'm sure he does need a break at the least. He's been working super hard for this.

Yes. We're on a fine course. Leaks are happening, and that's fine. We knew what we were getting into, and we're doing good work for good reasons.

Sorry my brain hurts, I'm probably still using the wrong homonym

Lock your shit down ,and if you're not comfortable being here, feel free to take your leave with neither harm nor foul.

hertz :)

I think we should not frame them as leaks though

Side effects, yes fine

Yes, that's a good read. Leaks connotes negatively.

👍

People are talking. They had the freedom to do so, and we all knew that.

Yes

Everything will be fine

It will be, but this is a high-stakes game, on two fronts:


1) We're putting ourselves in a position to be targeted by smart, technologically capable, mean-spirited people who would like to hurt us


2) Word about what we think and say is getting out to ENL influencers who might have a lot to lose if they get exposed doing Bad Shit.


So, it's a predictable phase change. Consider where you sit with that and proceed accordingly.

Definitely outed by this room, probably set up, if he was competently set up then the particular Australian is a patsy.

The metaphor I came up with reading the backscroll tonight is NATO Nuclear Sharing. I apologize for the incoming wall of text about Cold War geopolitics.

Back in the Bad Old Days of the 1960s and 1970s, the United States asserted that all norms and treaties about nuclear non-proliferation were dead letters if there was ever a general war in Europe. If the Soviets came through the Fulda Gap, we were handing dozens of nukes each to about ten different countries.

This was a terrifying threat, because it left the fate of multicellular life on Earth in the hands of whichever NATO head of government was *least* stable.

Also, some of those NATO countries were more likely to use nukes on each other than the Russians. Looking at you, Greece and Turkey.

Anyway, I am sitting in a room of 40 people who have all just been handed nuclear weapons. People are starting to have panic reactions. Anyone who hasn't found a mole in here to tell them what's going on is incompetent. 40 person rooms are inherently insecure.

Charlie disagrees with this vehemently, and that's OK.

Says I'm verified but nothing there

But at this point, I think I need to run for cover. I hope we do get to burn something green that's worth burning, like cactus or enl.wtf, and not ordinary anomaly tools, but this is not a forum which can do that.

I haven't seen any reason to think someone in here is actively leaking. I'm sure some things are being talked about. I'm sure other people in other places are having reactions. But EWBF

I had access to the same thing Erich did. I do not see any tools anymore. It's been said I have been under the radar. Nobody knew I was involved except in here

oh no, 40 person rooms are definitely inherently insecure :)

We may disagree about the extent to which that is ok.

Is it possible he's just locked down access to everyone who isn't in some immediate close circle?

It is. I lost access as well.

Yeah most likely a universal freeze

He said he received messages from someone he trusts on the matter

I am...not sure I ever had access, but I don't now.

I'm not familiar but if I had tools and had doubts I'd lock them down temporarily too

And the people be removed were removed because of it

It wasn't everyone. Only certain people.

Well maybe now we can finally have that faction-wide conversation about what tools are ok.

He thinks there's a chance that some people only got access to infiltrate and expose the tools

I'm sorry

It's late, that was glib

At this point, it is appropriate for everyone here to assume that the members of this room and probably most of the contents of the chat of this room have been released within ENL OG circles.

What does OG mean here?

We're saying SCARY THINGS and various people are freaking out to one another about it.


If you care about currying favor or maintaining a pristine reputation within the faction, now is probably the time to cut bait.

Old guard?

By the way, what's the cutoff year for OG?

Eh. Old guard gatekeepers. Perennial anomaly orga.

*shrug* it's a convenience term, you know that.