Whistle Orga

I think when we post the WB interview

the vetting of 8 people needed to get in

will check back later.

will remove any claim of accidental joining

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How can a person seriously accidentally join a slack?!

Hah! They can't!

Exactly

I posted it earlier in here😜 minus the name b/c I was told not to release his name

"I just accidentally clicked the invite link, accidentally created a username, accidentally created a password..."

"I received an invite but I had no idea what it was so I joined anyway"

Anybody have contacts for media and/or press release experience?

oh sorry pappy! I only just saw it on unbounded slack, and I must have missed some backlog.

Cate does

Ooh this is juicy!

But I think any NIA goodwill goes away once we do that.

So we need to consider it carefully

Fair point

TheBobs... Geez. This is the one I mentioned that was using a work server that also happened to contain health insurance and HIPPA protected information. I have a Charlotte local that probably has more information on this situation. He's been on a personal anti-cheating crusade for quite awhile.

Maybe I should contact them through the throwaway account

and say jig is up, you should help us

Cole posted it in a chat you and I are in and I asked him about sharing it

Do we have any to begin with? They leaked it to the RES.

who is the local

Yea bobs lives in High Point now and they like to make him run around haha not that he runs but ya know haha

SkyBlast L16 ENL

It may be wise to refrain from pushing too many Niantic buttons until Krug is back from vacation at least. We've got a lot of material right here.

Agreed

Thinking about possible futures is fine

oh, well the agent isnt going to know more than our source on the inside, right?

@PappyDeLong you probably know how much he has been on an anti-spoofing campaign against Jay lol

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Ok, I'm a bit lost on something

What's patreon?

I have heard some of it yea

its a recurring crowd funding site

you pay monthly for access to content. lots of artists use it, developers. V uses it.

Although theres no acces to anyhing extra on V

No probably not more than in inside person, but he has lots of history of what's gone on here and knows what's going on in Charlotte. Plus he's an IT guy, so he understands the tech parts. LOL

Do you have his email from tangrams?

DM me

Rio5, if that wasn't known

I didn't see her, but I wasn't looking specifically

Yeah, he's an admin along with me in our slack ;). I know him well. Lemme grab it

I don't remember seeing her in there

Lol

wasn't @SKSM5966 working on something like this yesterday?

No idea

If he was I missed it

@deafone @RevDegen, yup, lemme grab the link.

Actually, it may be in the pin...

...okay not in the pin, lemme grab the link.

What, you tripped? Fell? Landed on his 🍆?

here

[[Webpage]]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ZSMb-FLiJckeKcuPI21gJhf2DkoO822Il4_QjDavUs/edit?usp=drivesdk

haha

and there

Yup, that's it. Hah hah!

Oh

I was thinking of a tg channel

😆

Generally because this isn't going to be the last time we do this kind of work

@deafone, yeah, was just throwing them into a spreadsheet.

But that works tii

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I just shook the hand of keyboardwarrior

If someone wants to update his AO, it's Belfast, Ireland

He's also the current anomaly PoC

Not sure if that still matters, or not

I'm having a really hard time not saying something

Fuck

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Heh you could ask in passing if he knows anyone on that list. :)

I open with "nice day huh"

Playing a certain 3 days grace song loudly through headphones is always fun

I have been deeply disturbed by so many of the revelations that have come out of the Brokers Guild leak. The sheer number of agents involved, including many that I considered colleagues. The fundamental disconnect between how my player community and other player communities I have worked closely with view this game we love and how the community leaders in the Brokers Guild view it.


But there is nothing more sickening than the argument I’ve heard in a few places that the Brokers Guild was fundamentally on the side of the Right, rooting out cheating that endangers the soul of Ingress.


*The Guild is not an anti-spoofing league, nor are the tools it built tools for catching cheats.*


A bot that spits out lists of the oldest portals owned by a specific agent, or the oldest portals in a geographic area is not for catching spoofers.


A mod scraper to spot VRLA being deployed is not for catching spoofers.


A counter that tallies your guardian hits in terms of how many of your opponents’ days you have wasted is not for catching spoofers.


Automated alerts that push to every RESWUE client in your community when your local opponents are throwing a flash farm are not for catching spoofers.


A heat map of an individual player’s commonly-visited locations, complete with times of day, is not for catching spoofers.


Augmented reality gameplay is new and exciting territory. Yes, we all put our privacy on the line a bit every day that we play Ingress. But we also get to help define the cultural norms on using one another's location information. There has been some back-and-forth this week about whether x specific feature of #RIOT is technically within bounds of the Ingress TOS. Or whether Niantic is aware of some features that are clear TOS violations but tolerates them because they’ve been used to catch spoofers. Fine, if some of this is happening with Niantic’s blessing, they just have to say so.


But so much of what is revealed in these screen shots is so far outside of the bounds of moral behavior. No one ends up in a Slack by mistake — you have to explicitly accept an invitation, and it is clear that one of the requirements for membership in this Slack was registration with your real agent name, spelling quirks and all. Joining the Brokers Guild was a conscious choice.


And once in, well, we can all see from these screenshots what the members saw, in public channels inside that Slack. Guardian hit requests, complete with automated lists of which Brokers live nearby. (The deals being brokered were guardian hits, not spoofer stings.) People helping each other set up bot access in other chat platforms to propagate scraped data to their local communities. Agents building portfolios of players whose every move they wanted to stalk.


Somehow, the hundreds of people in that Slack, even if they weren’t all participating, stayed silent about what they saw there. That is destroying the soul of Ingress.

Yea, I saw him on there

I can post any time in the next two hours

May I make notes?

Yup

That's excellent, thank you!

I'm not sure I like the part about if it's with niantic's blessing then fine. Because it's really not fine. But they definitely do need to say something one way or the other.

Very nicely done

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Ig some brokers are embracing it and getting coins made

Takes away to innocent argument.

I mean if youre gonna embrace being actively scraping, why not coin check for it

How do the ones who claim ignorance combat the ones who are almost bragging about it? The argument doesn't stand up if only some of their people are saying it

Maybe that should be part of the post? Idk

"some of you claim it was for this. Some claim ignorance. What about the ones who are openly admitting to being cheating assholes?"

First two paragraphs rewrite

I have been deeply disturbed by so many of the revelations that have come out of the Brokers Guild story:
The sheer numbers of agents involved, including many that I considered colleagues.
The fundamental disconnect between how my community views this game and how the community leaders in the Brokers Guild view it.


But there is nothing more wrong than the argument I’ve heard in a few places that the Brokers Guild was fundamentally on the side of good, rooting out the location-altering cheating that endangers the soul of Ingress.

working on the tail

I think this is a very clever gotcha, actually.

What's the format for a riot lookup? I'm playing catch-up in so many chats I don't know where to find it

Augmented reality gameplay is new and exciting territory. Yes, we all put our privacy on the line a bit every day that we play Ingress. But we also get to help define the cultural norms on using one another's location information. There has been some back-and-forth this week about whether x specific feature of #RIOT is technically within bounds of the Ingress TOS. Or claims that Niantic is aware of these TOS violations but tolerates them because they’ve been used to catch spoofers. If that's the case, Niantic can simply say so.


But so much of what is revealed in these screen shots is so far outside of the bounds of moral behavior. No one ends up in a Slack by mistake — you have to explicitly accept an invitation, and it is clear that one of the requirements for membership in this Slack was registration with your real agent name, spelling quirks and all. Joining the Brokers Guild was a conscious choice.


And once in, well, you'd see we can all see from these screenshots, in public channels inside that Slack. Guardian hit requests, complete with automated lists of which Brokers live nearby. The deals being brokered were guardian hits, not spoofer stings.


People helping each other set up bot access in other chat platforms to propagate scraped data to their local communities. Agents building portfolios of players whose every move they wanted to stalk.


Somehow, the hundreds of people in that Slack, even if they weren’t all participating, even if they joined with noble intentions, stayed silent about what they saw there.


That is destroying the soul of Ingress.

@Intoku

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Ok....that was weird

He just openly copped to being on the list