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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-20
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
At some point today i need an all down time & glympse tag for gulf fusion to hand to my teams, please.
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Pappy DeLong
If you mention removing the badge in a chat I'm in I will blast that...just saying
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Charlie Arnold
I know.


The next thing I was going to say is....


I have been neglecting the fuck out of an op I'm supposed to be leading tomorrow am, and will be going off the radar soon to focus on that
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Ty bud πŸ’š
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Charlie Arnold
That's fine. We all have different opinions, and you know I respect yours. We can comfortably disagree about stuff.
Sorry. I mean... I think we are going to need you as the release point for something big later.
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Pappy DeLong
😊
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
Oh, is the Op in the morning tomorrow?... I can't shadow, I'll actually be at a marriage coference at church.
@Semiotiq
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Saturday needs something released, imo.
Let me see what else we have in the material
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Charlie Arnold
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Intrigued
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
#ideas
as far as what to do about the situation.


*some* players giving badges inappropriately lead Niantic to respond by removing ALL offsite badging.


Will they follow the same logic in this case?
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
Sorry, misread. Removing my last statement due to not making any damned sense
@PoisonIvy30 πŸ‘†
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Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
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Bad press I think is the best angle for this. Pokemon has countless people spoofing and building maps through the bot-mesh. Ingress has the broker's guild - why cant Niantic curb cheating in their game is an excellent article for a magazine. When a magazine sends a request to Hanke asking that... it'll get attention. G+ posts do nothing. pleas for bans do nothing.
Thought this was interesting
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
[[Photo]]We got mail
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Charlie Arnold
@theprevaricator this is a low priority nitpick: there are a few spacing issues on the Follow the Money page..just inconsistent spacing between paragraphs.
I'm still feeling the urge to launch a #riot swarm TG channel
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I dont think doing this like recharge is the right move
a) they'll point to it as factionalizing, say this is our playbook
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Charlie Arnold
There are a lot of smart people with time and giveashit to spend on this that we're not tapping as efficiently as we could.


Maybe another method.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
b) it deanonymizes us and may prevent future leaks on ENL side.
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Charlie Arnold
Those are good points and I agree.
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Aneristic (PHL)
How are we preventing future leaks?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Youre not getting invited to ENL.wtf anyways
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I don't actualy see anything wrong with RES noticing that we have an organized social media machine, because hell yes we talk to each other and we care about this
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
but some of us might
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Aneristic (PHL)
People believe this comes from a xfac group in favor of clean play.
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Charlie Arnold
oh man. Are we smart and effective enough to engineer getting Becca invited to ENL.wtf?
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Aneristic (PHL)
Probably not.
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Pappy DeLong
Really?
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Aneristic (PHL)
I've seen it said.
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Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
+1 I think our detached tone buys us a lot of respect.
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Aneristic (PHL)
I mean not quite as many times as I've seen people say that RES are getting an inside feed from Niantic.
But I'd hate to disabuse those people of that notion.
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Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
Well, maybe not a LOT.. but people are more willing to listen when it doesn't seem like finger pointing
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Pappy DeLong
I would imagine if this is going public to other venues then both sides should be pushed, not just the RES, or am I wrong in that?
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Have another work morning, not going to be responsive until 1
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
if you want a swarm
make an official release TG channel
one way with a throwaway owner
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Charlie Arnold
announcements only?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Res will subscribe too
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Charlie Arnold
we're getting that effect now, I think
swarm = self organizing. People do shit, talk about the shit they're doing, piggybacking happens.
I'm letting it go for now.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Haha all good. I think I missed it
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
Honestly, organic virality is good for us. Gets us a lot of collateral eyeballs.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Lol you're funny
People know my stance on cheating and hunting
I am also too tech dumb to be a good candidate lol
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Mantispidae - west tn
We have at least some support from RES agents oiut there. How do we take that and use it? I think the borader the support for clean ingress, the easier it is to make it happen?
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I think any RES agent who is making public statements against cheating should be thanked and amplified
even if they are not doing any other action in their community, they are telling their teammates they oppose it
and that is positive momentum for all of us.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
#ideas


If you say you were in the network to detect spoofers, ok, I will believe thats why you joined, and I hate that spoofing happens. It's not an ENL only problem.


But you still failed the test dramatically when you stood by while a massive guardian hunting operation took place before your eyes. The system didnt NEED to have the features that allowed GH to take place in order to catch spoofers. Did you advocate for that change? Did you tell people that you thought this was wrong or off-track from the mission?
and if you couldnt change it from the inside, it would only take ONE person who put the humanity of their opponents over the loyalty to faction in order to end it.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
Oh, yeah, one of my friends is a reporter who recently left Forbes. If someone wants an intro to the guy who writes their PokΓ©mon go stuff, I could try to make that happen
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Mantispidae - west tn
It's not an ENL only problem. - MAybe say that it is an ingress problem to remove any faction-speciic labels. I believe neutrality is very key in this.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
We've got mail
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matt - deaf1 - maine
The way you say it this time....
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
out of order
hold plz
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This is resistance homegrown miniscraper
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Exactly I think we should have a separate channel for all the good g+ distros. Would have worked well for recharge and this
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Separate from the other system
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
An MITM setup. Interesting.
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Pappy DeLong
Oh TheBobs, thought they were sneaky in Charlotte at the shard by hiding in their car πŸ˜‚
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Since this represents a whole new story potentially I am going to wipe a few of those that contain the reporting agents identity.
oh, he says he doesnt care if we use his name.
Still, precautions
I have the code and images saved
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
Backlogging like mad with half a brain because I'm on my way to WPA to see my Dad in the hospital today. He's okay-ish. But even half - paying attention, this release is magnificent. Counters their half-assed spin beautifully. πŸ’š
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
Holy shit! It's not just me, that's some serious info, right?!
@theprevaricator?
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Charlie Arnold
This is a shot from a hangouts conversation between an ENL player and a RES player in the Morgantown, WV area. The speaker is Antitech, an effective strategic player in the area. He's on the outed list.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Yea, I think its a whole nother thing
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Charlie Arnold
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^^ the above isn't for release yet, just wanted to get thoughts. I COULD post it to g+
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I love this screenshot
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Does he mind if it is attributed to him? Might be better to place the text and attribute it to a NA RES player.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
This just blows all their claims out of the water.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Then when they moan and bitch that it's fake that could be provided as backup.
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
@Semiotiq, would you preserve the source? Would it matter?