Whistle Orga

heh

Mostly retired, former leadership.

Understood. Well crap. I think I just realized something.

oh, i know the agent id

And, at best, let someone at NIA know this was coming which resulted in the RES finding out.

I think we need someone to take point on attacking the RES position that they were using grey tools to do white work. It's a weak stance, easily attacked, and now that they're buying in to it en masse it's appropriate to yank that rug out from under them.

I was thinking the same

My Krug problem is this.

He knew about Riot months ago.

He's been letting it run for whatever reason, *despite the pain this causes Enl*.

yes.

Regarding an additional bomb, we have the "a shrill noise" interview, and WB has given us permission to quote

I don't think he's malicious, and I don't think he's in the pocket of Resistance.

Yes

But he has *got* to do better.

Despite what it does to *the game*

🙄

👍

This is a good conversation for g+. It needs a cogent and respected owner. Can't be me or erich.

What's that?

it cant be me?

I don't think you can afford to be front and center

Not yet anyway

I could work on this, but I don't have the audience

You're right, my house wasnt in order

I mean, I am not the boss of you, just sharing my feel

I could possibly if others want to help build the argument

that history isnt far away

You would be very good for this job.

I'd be happy to write it

or help

I prefer Proverbs 16: 17-19 myself

Maybe a Vanguard

as mouthpiece

Hosea 8:7

The less polarizing and more respected the publisher, the better.

Lori

Krug knew about RIOT? We're sure of this?

we have it documented

Omg

When I first started, one the local enl leaders asked for people to sign up to forward their attack emails to some other site to help build some sort of map or whatever of statistics of most active areas or whatever. Pretty sure that was outgress now. I had no clue

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Would Lori do it? I do not even know how to ask.

I cede to her

She wont do it though

Ahh. Good chance of it.

She stays out of politics

I mean, I can ask

but james can ask better

and I think its still a no

What are we not asking Lori to do?

Post a brilliant G+ post debunking the white hat argument

nailing them to the cross

lighting it on fire

dropping it at krugs house

I don't even remember the whole conversation now lol but I do remember signing up. So in a way, I have facilitated the building of outgress?

I don't like to think people are dumb but this Ruth person's post really makes me wonder.

Yeah. It's going to be a centerpiece of the next round of conversations. It's narrative control.

The mouthpiece has to be unassailable

My candidates are Ana and cate

I don't think we should ask Lori. It's too bad, she would be perfect

Oliie is both fiery and unassailable

but I think Cate works. We can provide audience

Maybe? My opinion, though, it's not a big deal.

He's too well known as a rabble rouser, and has feuds with NE

Just being practical here.

thats what this is

a very practical discussion

Man, this really bums me out. Disappointing.

he let it slide to catch spoofers

allegedly.

i mean, he saw the evidence of it himself.

unless that image is doctored

🤔

I'm starting a draft. I have to get my daily reports out, so it'll take 20 minutes to get started, and then I'm not the fastest writer. I will be pulling some of you to help. If Ana can do it better or faster, get her

No I mean allegedly to catch spoofers.

oh

It's your job. Thank you for taking it on.


Make sure you have all your infosec on lockdown.

Yep i ask a lot of lori, im not asking her that. Shes sidelines on this

Cheering but not participating

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@Intoku, glad to help if I can.

#ideas
the guardian badge isnt a big deal, focus on strategic play. - then why did 800+ agents participate in a sophisticated system to deny them?


this system was used to catch spoofers - then why is it structured with specific commands for finding someone to kill guardians?


Any noble minded attempts to address spoofing would have been A) xfac, since datahasnocolor and b) shaped to prevent misuse

Ok. Sounds like we have actions sorted for now?


- promote follow the money


- smash with Cate, signal boost


- prep the Krug splash, but hold for now


- possible WB interview release down the road.

I love the WB interview release.

I think Becca volunteered as well

WB interview release this weekend I think.

It's an exclamation point.

People are asking what releases tomorrow

establish a pattern tomorrow

Yea that still makes me go wow

no one will notice quiet sunday

She's good at cheering I think :)

Sorry, I am mobile and not being comprehensive.


I would like to keep Becca in the holster. She's been under the radar so far, and we will need another respected neutral choice for something later.

This job is directly in Cate's wheelhouse

good points

For my part, I'm going to start beating the Guardian badge drum today. Everyone knows I was on that soapbox already

These are good

Are they? That is funny