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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-20
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Nadia Amro
That happened in a Res chat
Sorry, 2 separate instances
Oh this is funny....
Ready?
From same Res agent who realized I was involved....
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
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Nadia Amro
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY the problem
Please don't share those outside this chat.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Just curious, evidence like them saying that, does that have any weight in Niantic eyes on the validity of everything? Also would it mean that guy is admitting he's in in and involved? I mean that's gonna get him banhammerred right?
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Chris - Sorry to hear about your locals. Hope everything is safe.
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
Doing the backlog dance but this caught my eye. @vedorian, that's fucked. Anything I can do, man, let me know.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
Yes, perhaps that is the story with WB's pov and what prompted them to come forward.
With acknowledgement that both sides use tools like this.
And pointing a light back to Niantic to make a change?
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CQ 🐛👑 Sarah
Before yesterday I didn't know enl.wtf existed. I saw one screen grab on g+ from June 2016 and it looks very similar to riot.one... With itso9's name on the list and his faction change due to not having the creative freedom he wanted... It makes a girl wonder.
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Nadia Amro
His name is on the list and he's already been banned once
I've turned over several additional items directly to Andrew
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Amber Yeary
Ummmmmmmmmmm
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Nadia Amro
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Amber Yeary
Like in school when kids know someone's getting in trouble
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Nadia Amro
Yeah, I've given Andrew his name. Doing so here would be that doxxing thing you guys are talking about, yes?
I'm still a little fuzzy on that other than knowing it's when people give up your personal info. Do I have that right?
Also, one of the Res PoCs for tonight's meet up was an admin of RIOT.
So I have that to look forward to
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Amber Yeary
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Real names and locations
Igns not so much. Don't tell anyway.
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Nadia Amro
Gotcha
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Amber Yeary
Also powerwording
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matt - deaf1 - maine
I think they need to do a carpetbombing. Ban as many as they reasonably can, make others avoid it like the plaque.
410,000 hits as of this morning. damn
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Nadia Amro
I'm just going to drink a whisky tonight and enjoy myself.


And bite holes in my tongue not to ask him where my oldest portal is and when they plan on killing it.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
This is the email that they sent out to all their members yesterday morning just as it was going public
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Again not for reshare
But shows the cognitive dissonance and messaging starting.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Doesn't really explain the name or the idea of a broker
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Right.. I hadn't thought of that
The name itself implies hunting.
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Nadia Amro
Why on earth would people query for aged portals then?
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Just a load of bullshit but basically confirms NIA shared the dump.
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Nadia Amro
Sorry, doesn't hold water with me.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Yeah. Best case this is a guardian hunting tool that got adapted to do other things
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I agree. If they cared about spoofing they could have restricted the tool.
They cared about hunting and it also allowed them to track spoofing.
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Aneristic (PHL)
I do buy that some people in the group are only there to track spoofing
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Nadia Amro
Here's how I see this: I carry a knife. It can be used to eat with. It can also be used to kill someone. Only one of those ways is legal.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
lol, I like the implication there though. They think we are pushing for recharge badges so we can badge spoofers who assist in an anomaly
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Nadia Amro
I'd have more respect for them if they just admitted to it.
I have nothing but respect for assholes. They're honest.
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
how many times can we use spoof in a message?
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Nadia Amro
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
I get a kick out of the spoofing allegations. In our region that’s all they did until stlcard caught a long term softban.
But querying for an agents oldest portals and killing it an hour later totally solves spoofing.
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AnAmerican
Also that they lost DC because spoofers. Not because they suck.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
They must think people are morons.
And I still want an explanation from Niantic as to how the dump got to the RES.
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AnAmerican
Also, after they lost Nashville we had an influx of blue spoof activity. Because they were pretty butthurt over it.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Welp, if the RES party line is that they have Niantic's blessing to use this to catch enlightened spoofers, all Niantic has to do is say "yes, that's true"
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Amber Yeary
I read that as they see our recharge efforts as orchestrated spoofing. That they think people aren't actually mashing the button
Disregards all the photos
And stats
The NO U's begin
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He’s Res
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AnAmerican
Niantic would never admit they sanctioned players to gather that much user info into a database. They may as well slit their wrist and go to the EU privacy enforcement authorities now
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Amber Yeary
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
On that email — it’s a blatant lie, there are too many spoofers in the guild.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
if RES is dumb enough to push it, easy shutdown
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
It’s also an acknowledgement that it’s all real.
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Amber Yeary
They try to imply that Niantic wanted them to do it
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
Ok, but the implication it seems like youre making (I could be misunderstanding) is that someone from this room not only leaked it, but is leaking the names of most of the people in the room. That's a much bigger implication than the original leak.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
While I could believe that J. Random Res on the East Coast doesn’t know SilverSpork spoofs, it’s not realistic that a PNW Res doesn’t know it.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
I keep banging the drum but I think Niantic has a lot to answer for here.
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AnAmerican
Well, it’s for rooting out ENL spoofing.
Pretty sure 1brads portal got spoofed in Mexico by the guild... because they thought he got it by spoofing.
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Amber Yeary
Our RES PoC here uses spoofing as his primary method of play nowadays
Also nice touch using "brothers"
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Pappy DeLong
You will imagineably push off more people that have earned it rather than have people help that cause.
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
I'm pretty sure someone on Res is a Mass Effect fan boy. The Information Broker in that universe is a shadowy figure who has a network of people who deal in strategic info about others.
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Nadia Amro
I'll be back in a bit
I have to finish this stupid banner I started
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Can we drop the patreon and the signup forms today?
We haven’t touched the financial aspect yet
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Good idea
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Right?
Um fuck yea, I didn't think those were confirmed.
Point me to the images and something to make copy.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
What did you have in mind for this?
Adding a page to the website that points to pay-for-info?
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Let me write some copy for you, one second.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
Oooo. Good call.