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A good rule request: "Anything that automates aggregation of data is not ok."


That would rule out some grey things, like outgress.

Yup that's fine

I really don't care what they are as much as they are defined.

Outgress already a TOS violation for charging money for services, but.

Agree as long as it is clear on the limit of what mod/ plugin capabilities are probibited as IITC could not be viewed as a stock ing tool

This is a social media campaign. We succeed by capturing and harnessing approval in a short period of time and hurling it like mjolnir at an overwhelmed Niantic decision making corps

If they're defined I can decide whether or not I want to play😂

we cannot achieve this goal if we're boring people to death.

I think I'll go back to being quiet and reading backlog

why? you have good ideas.

lol good old Sirlin

Did anyone play Kongai?

I think his thoughts on tournament play are useful here

I'd rather have the mechanic fixed than a gentleman's agreement

I don't even mind some gentleman's agreement. But as players, we shouldn't be shouldering all the burden for figuring out how to play fair.

Yeah. It just leads to predictable holy war between purists and fucktards

Clear rules, appropriate penalties, and reasonable system to challenge the ruling on the field.

YES. They've always been SO BAD at "challenge the ruling on the field" -- everything. Portal denials. Portal appeals. Erroneous bans. They don't give a specific reason in the first place and when you ask for clarification you get no answer.

geez I'm finally catching up on the Reddit thread

it's way, way, WAY better than I expected.

We need to be excerpting this stuff and feeding it back to Niantic on g+. Does anyone want to tackle that?

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Somehow someone found out I was involved

Oh no! How do you know?

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Was pinged by this smurf last night

They were trying to explain their name being on that list

We had a rather heated personal discussion that took place before my statement you see there.

I saw no reason to share that due to its personal nature. This was someone I had called friend. One of the names I said it hurt to see.

They pinged me to say "nice job with the crew. Allow me to explain."

Either way, it was bound to come out. It hasn't been detrimental to me, nor do I anticipate it being so. Andrew is aware of my involvement and I don't think I've done anything wrong in helping make this happen. I have not posted anything "publicly", and I have not commented anywhere. That satisfies the terms of my contract.

I'm sorry. It really is awful to lose friends like this, and to feel unsafe 💚

I'll live. Did I miss anything crucial in backlog?

Any mandatory reading from @Semiotiq

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"the work is not done"
You know, the usual TGR mantra

Damn it

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TGR and it's spin offs are issuing me more homework than my PhD classes

😂😂

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We can call you Dr Catw0man1 if it helps

Lol

I'm not sure it's accurate, but it was said that Niantic stopped accepting Intel connections from AWS. If true, we may have actually shut the thing down. For now

Now's the time to get your guardian. Lol

From the more savvy on this: every time they do a map update there's a window between it and when the coders adjust the scraping tools that can be anywhere from hours to a day or two where you can plant undetected

That was a terrible sentence but hopefully it makes sense

I just backlogged really fast so I apologise if I missed this. Is there a pr spin regarding guardian we can put on this to a wider audience that makes sense? "Beloved game with fatal flaw, leads to massive rule breaking"?

Or something. Is there a hook that would lead to more widespread exposure and more pressure on Niantic? And if so what is it? The scale of the scraping? The fact that guardian makes no sense with the rest of the game? The fact
that WB came forward?

I have had no coffee so have no idea if this is a good idea. But is there a way to give this traction in the ingress or gaming world equivalent to athletes doping in sports? Players having an unfair advantage and what should Niantic do about it?

What’s the latest news on Scrapergate? @theprevaricator 🐸

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Meow sir...

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The real, original and only Hulk for my money...

I regret nothing

NOTHING

Ooh... where are you?

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Belfast, Ireland

And yes, I'm drinking

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I'm also getting tagged in posts now. :/

By people who saw you at the van events?

The only people who knew you were involved work for Niantic.

We can't swear Niantic to secrecy and we also can't assume any room this large keeps secrets

Hrm telegram won’t load from 1a to 8a. :/


Nadia sorry to hear you are catching grief.


Necro - what do we expect? I’d like to see bans for the agents involved in the anatomy of a hit and substantial timeouts for everyone else but that’s highly unlikely.


Niantic - Id bet dollars to donuts the dump leaked to the res from Niantic and would enjoy seeing them squirm trying to explain it.

Well they have employees on both teams

I don’t see how that is a mitigating factor.

I can see them discussing it at Niantic headquarters. And word goes out quick

I reeeeaaaally like this

Why are we even certain that there was a leak? We told Andrew, he was probably obligated to tell whoever his boss is or send out an email to people. Other Niantic employees play, they hear about it or see an email and go into Delete Fucking Everything mode

No leak other than what we did ourselves

The information was also shared to NIA Ops at their request before release. Subsequent to that but prior to the release they go into lockdown.

I knew the risks

If Niantic is asking for the information, presumably in confidence, how does it get to the RES?

We did that, too. Who runs the Nia ops profile?

I've always been hunted and doxxed anyway

So this is nothing new

Hell, this is easier than when I posted the fact that I was gifted a BRRN coin.

I don't know enough about marketing and pr to k ow what the hook is, but maybe there is something

They tried to hack my school email. Lol

Its a nice coin 😂

You're not wrong

The smurf tears on that one were epic

So were the threats. 😕

But yeah, I'm starting to get tagged as people keep posting. Like me, Andrew, Nia Ops, Ethan....etc

Positive posts or horse shit?

"Do something" posts

I think a nod to guardians as the top of the slippery slope is fine but the emphasis needs to be on the granularity and invasiveness of the tracking of actual human beings in real life.

"Nadia is the most powerful and well connected person I know! Nadia please fix this!"

Lol, kind of like that

Oh, well

Like I said, no regrets

That's much better than "Nadia Y U Do Dis"

I thought they were implicating you in the exposé