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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-20
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Charlie Arnold
Drunk Cate is pretty entertaining!
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
This. I thought Pitch Perfect 2
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I was right?
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Ha! I've not seen it. Just the first thing that came to mind for an acronym
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
So, is a Little Free Library in a residential neighborhood a good portal candidate? #random #sorry
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Sure. Public and library and a gathering place lol but res will down vote it if you're in any digests
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
Ok, thatโ€™s what I thought. Theyโ€™ve been pooping on most of ours it seems. Particularly those in mostly ENL areas.
I wanna have a build day in the shop; make 4 or 5 for several of us. It helps the kids, too ๐Ÿ˜Š
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Amber Yeary
@Semiotiq fix your reshare. John Hanson doesn't care about Ingress
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Charlie should be sleeping
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Charlie Arnold
He does Amber, he just doesn't know yet.
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Don't blame me if they get denied tho. It's definitely worth a shot
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Amber Yeary
If he's not going to sleep he should be useful
And face it, he's not going to sleep
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Charlie Arnold
I'm watching PItch Perfect 2, drinking, and becoming sleep. STFU
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Had to Google
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Good night, @Semiotiq . Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT โšœ)
[[Webpage]]Just found this post both factions want tees. https://plus.google.com/+JordanGoodwinVickVega82/posts/YaTaPt3hLhG
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
Never ๐Ÿ’š. Some ENL 70 miles away said public spaces Good, residential bad. I rate TGR opinions higher. Iโ€™m going to roll the dice I think.
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Charlie Arnold
we're just in the first of what will probably three or four breathers.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
#JustTellMeTheRules
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
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Charlie Arnold
so much work left to do. And it's not clear what the next step is
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Spike (crewellye -PIT โšœ)
After 18hrs Finally leaving work and I can then actually start catching up with posts, this will an interesting ride
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Charlie Arnold
Krug is back on Monday. Probably not going to get a Niantic response on Monday.
Tuesday or Weds., probably.
What do we want that response to be?
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
You didn't know go the fuck to sleep?!
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I imagine more res will be speaking out about things tomorrow.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
If you get a Niantic response I will be dumbfounded
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Shade as well as support.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT โšœ)
Oh that was easy ..And for his next trick Charlie proved black is white and got us all killed at the next zebra crossing
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I usually don't make it into an acronym.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
We will need to catch both.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
Catch?
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
I want to put one in front of my grandparents' house. They'd have thought having one was cool. My sister lives there now and she's on board as long as it can look like a TARDIS
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
But it's maybe a good idea to think about the outcomes we'd like to see from this.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
Once it's made, I'm totally submitting it
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Charlie Arnold
RES seem to be circling on this notion of 'We used it to catch spoofers', which is fine. It's absurdly easy to counter, if we decide that's what we want to do.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
respond to as appropriate
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
[[GIF, size 35'438 bytes]]
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Some sort of action against the agents in that slack would be nice but it's doubtful. Hell, even having Niantic acknowledge it would be good
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Charlie Arnold
I want a permanent change to guardian dynamics that completely eliminates that mode of gameplay in a way DEEPLY DISSATISFYING to those people for whom it is a primary motivation.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Bans would be a helpful signal from Niantic as to their position on the matter, for sure
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
[[GIF, size 20'161 bytes]]
.... Becoming sleep
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
We need to have this not turn into a thing about the technicalities of whether specific individual accounts on that spreadsheet are bannable
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Charlie Arnold
Been thinking about that all night, and that's my personal microcrusade. It's easy to target and process, I think.


But we could have multiple goals here.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
IDK, gif fail
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Spike (crewellye -PIT โšœ)
Wish i would have had the time to do more. Everyone working here was incredible, is take this ride again . Maybe after a little sleep
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I'm happy with clear guidelines
Tell me what's legit and what's not
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Charlie Arnold
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I dig that everyone has different lines on both sides
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Charlie Arnold
โค๏ธ
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ollie (@ollietronic)
And even within a faction
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
We absolutely do have multiple goals. That's fine by me ๐Ÿ˜Š
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I just want some consistent rules. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
@Crewellye there's so much to catch up on. Shaperspeed, agent
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Charlie Arnold
I think that's still formative.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Crazy thought...spin it to impact recharge as well as guardian. Probably not doable but it's there
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
No better time to push it, IMO.
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Charlie Arnold
we'd take a beating on that
yeah. I mean, we need to be thinking about next things now, which is why I'm still awake.
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
Yessss! Thereโ€™s one down in South MS. It got axed b/c itโ€™s too close to the existing library portal. That would be a sweet project.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Recharge is solidly on ice until q1
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Charlie Arnold
so I've got one: Permanently destroy guardian gameplay as we know it.


I like this because it's going to make a bunch of bullies quit, and that fills me with joy.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
It is known โ˜น๏ธ
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
So much this. People knowing that there is a Nia employee on that list and no public acknowledgement from Niantic is like they're saying it's ok.
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Charlie Arnold
Bans: my instinct is to say that we cannot explicitly push for this.
API: maybe
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I'd be OK if they said it was OK.
Like just tell me the rules.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
We have to steer away from this, I think
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
I just think they ought to remove the whole damn stat from the game. Stat line gone. Badges gone.
And not say a thing about it
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Charlie Arnold
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I know. My brain is on the POCs on the list and how they were so against it. It's not something to combine
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
Every time something similar has come up, it gets bogged down in the minutiae of particular ban cases
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
They can call it "minor text fixes"in the patch notes ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Charlie Arnold
I want to achieve permanent culture change.


The current culture is "It's implicitly ok to cheat because Niantic never does anything about it."
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
I'd be okay with no bans if we get a substantial change
Yeah, what Semi just said
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Thing is, it won't stop the use of the program for other purposes.
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Charlie Arnold
Yes. I think we have to concede that we can't do anything about scraping as a fielding tool.
I just don't see a way to attack it.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Don't they have a way to prevent scrapping altogether or am I too hopeful?
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Charlie Arnold
So.


Culture change, as manifested in the elimination of GH culture via code changes.
and...? what
what else can we angle for?
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
What if they said nothing is cheating anymore and we can do anything we are technically advanced enough to do in the play of Ingress? That would be interesting.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
Too hopeful. Tech always finds a way
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Spike (crewellye -PIT โšœ)
Heh my 143 day in NC took an ultra strike during all this. Still there less shield, imagine that. The culture has not changed just yet
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
We change the motivation
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Charlie Arnold
Scraping is never going to go away. We can take a huge bite out of its current value by eliminating the aspect of gameplay at which its primarily aimed.