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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-19
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
the gmail is 2FA also
it wasnt accessed except by me
I did get this
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Around the same time
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
That's Jerry being Jerry
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I dont know that agent
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Over a quarter million views
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Nadia Amro
He's.....different
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
almost 15k unique visitors
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Oh, fuck. Erich, check your phone.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
You want to make sure that your phone number still rings through to the correct phone.
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Pappy DeLong
I've seen that link before. Wasn't he like one of the first scrapers?
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Nadia Amro
Waaaay back in the day
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
The trick here is that you call the phone company and ask them to transfer service to your new phone.
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Charlie Arnold
Again everybody, if you are in this chat you should assume that you are going to be attacked by some bad, smart people.


Personal infosec hygiene passes, no exceptions
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matt - deaf1 - maine
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Nadia Amro
I don't know that they know everyone that's in this chat
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Yeah, but it's never bad to be more secure.
Risk/reward.
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Aneristic (PHL)
We almost certainly have leaks from this chat
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Nadia Amro
Erich would definitely be discovered to be a target. I imagine they could find out who did the site?
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Aneristic (PHL)
Question is how far those leaks will spread
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Nadia Amro
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
There's no clear trail from the site back to Erich, and I am good at that kind of tracing, although I am not exceptional.
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Nadia Amro
Define "leaks"...
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
riot.one went down before the public release.
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VAIN
Now I don't feel as bad about sitting here and double checking all my accounts and 2FA on EVERYTHING.
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Nadia Amro
Did the WB tell us that?
Wait wait wait
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
No, we saw it happen in real time.
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Aneristic (PHL)
If everyone told one trusted friend that's a lot of people
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Nadia Amro
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Someone tried to click and it was down, IIRC. Hold, checking scrollback.
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Nadia Amro
I'm so confused now
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Charlie Arnold
This place was never intended to stay airtight for long. It's fine. Just assume that 50 people can't keep a secret, and some bad, smart people are going to be digging.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
I suspect that riot going down came from Niantic.
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Nadia Amro
How did we see it in real time though?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Outside of this room, we told Krug.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Forwarded messages
At any given time there are multiple informants between Niantic, ENL, and RES. See previous conversation re: 50 people can't keep a secret.
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Nadia Amro
We didn't have access to riot
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Charlie Arnold
We have all been high profile noisemakers on a number of recent topics. It is not hard to establish patterns. And we are going to be making some people very, very angry over the next few days.
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Nadia Amro
πŸ‘
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
We could see the public page and WB told us slack was disrupted
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Nadia Amro
So, time out....
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
The public page briefly displayed
NIA takedown in process
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Nadia Amro
Does that mean their scraper is down?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Can't tell
Maybe, maybe not
They can't get data our till they fix it.
Could still be collecting
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Aneristic (PHL)
They probably have a new one. Someone boasted about that in comm.
The scraper doesn't run in slack
It's just accessed that way
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Well, sure they can, they just stick the front end up at a different URL.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Vedorian is getting hunted like crazy right now
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
The web interface is also just an interface
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
The public facing website, the slack, and the scraper are three different things
The first of those went down before we went live
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Charlie Arnold
I am thinking about doing !riot @user x 800 on all comms as a bantest
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
Assume the scraper is still up
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Aneristic (PHL)
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
Calling someone a cheater in comm is a TOS violation
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
I’d have a stroke if anyone was banned from this already. Maybe only the guardian hit people.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
Whether that particular move qualifies, /shrug. But please help agents in your home communities keep that in mind
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
From a RES
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Aneristic (PHL)
That's fair
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I think it was introspective
But yeah
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
maybe that's what they meant to put up on the website they couldn't get into
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
How crucial is it that we change our passwords to things? I mentioned that to my husband and he just kind of stared and me and went ".... why would you need to change passwords? You didn't log into anything..."
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matt - deaf1 - maine
its the angry res.
Youve seen the emails above. I didnt post anything publicly yet, and changed my password.
5pm is about to hit on the West Coast.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
But the emails are because someone was trying to get into the website ... They weren't attacking any of us personally
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ollie (@ollietronic)
I switched to 2fa.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Never know. I have 3fa.
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Pappy DeLong
Did you try going to riot.one?
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
it's also possible that whomever at Niantic Ops received the info yesterday after they reached out could have shared with an untrusted source. Sucks to think the leak could come from in here, but, I guess it is what it is,
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Charlie Arnold
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Cate [Intoku, WA, πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ]
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Google Authenticator is great to have especially on iOS. Ingress used to shit the bed in low signal situations and make you authenticate again
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VAIN
Absolutely something I would suggest doing anyway, but something I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND to anyone making a public post about this. More so if you have a larger reputation and public face, easier target.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
Yes, it redirects
But to change passwords to things outside of Google seems unnecessary
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VAIN
I run 2FA on anything that offers it by default but I'm paranoid about my infosec.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Here's the math
There's a .1% chance of anything happening, 1 in 1000
That 1 time, the cost to you is immense because they own your entire online life
The cost of changing passwords is low.
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VAIN
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Most of the time that cost is wasted, but the one time it's not, you just saved yourself a LOT of pain.
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Charlie Arnold
275,000 page views.


Jesus look what we did.
You people are monsters.