Whistle Orga

Yep

How many views is it up to now?

number is at 82,000

101k

wow

backend has more recent numbers

ya

5000 unique visitors

That’s what I was going to ask.

Oh, more from Medic!.....

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WOW

oh fuck that guy

Yep

please respond with not any more

That’s good for us. The more he brags the more it confirms it and makes it harder for Niantic to poo poo.

Yep!

The res who embrace and wear it as a badge of honor will reduce the plausible deniability of the rest.

Yup. Just SS all the bragging and it can be used later

[[Webpage]]Google+ post by Rebecca Stanton
https://plus.google.com/109389247982980269512/posts/Z8p3iQzWFco

This is killing me I am at work and vwry busy. I can't spare time to keep watching this unfold. And could only squeeze in a couple posts while on the road. I need to call off sick the rest of the day!

I'm running late to work myself lol

I missed most everything in here from bed last night to release. Why do I have to have a real job for 9 months a year?

Please share?

Aaaannnd send that to Krug lol

Wow. Admission of guilt?

Yeah, I should.... All 3 of those things....

Fuck that guy indeed.

[[Webpage]]https://plus.google.com/106063739913433767287/posts/SgZHkCdFq12

We're gonna need to collect the G+ posts somewhere

Getting the bragging screenshots to Krug (and Niantic by extension) will be critical to show they can’t poopoo it when the player openly admits to it.

That medic guy, is he a medical marvel? I suspect his mouth and his ass are the reverse of the rest of us.

6k visitors, 120k views.

Shall we start a spreadsheet?

How bout this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ZSMb-FLiJckeKcuPI21gJhf2DkoO822Il4_QjDavUs/edit#gid=0

I think it's more nothing but ass lol

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I will not share Andrew's private message convos with me. My apologies.

confirm or deny he was like "holy fucking shit"

Oh, no problem at all, didn't realize that's what you were referring to. 🙂

No apology needed whatsoever.

I can say this much....we needed proof of them using it. Actually pulling stuff up.

Them being members isn't enough.

I said that early on

We have that, right?

Nice post Becca, thank you. Reshared.

Andrew is listening and we have his attention

so we need days of screenshots?

But we need to get him that

It's on the site

Anatomy of a hit

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It needs to be enough for Niantic to make an unambiguous statement of whether this kind of thing is acceptable

@TheRealVedorian he means each person pulling data

I pointed him to that

if i didnt pull data, but am a member in the group...

Plus some other things that he could possibly use as well

Oh okay. That would have been impossible in the small time frame we had I think

Not what you know, what you can prove.

yep

I'm going to stitch that somewhere.

For bans to happen, yes, I would imagine we need actual use. But I hope they are also seeing the bigger picture here

This

They are, but the bans would have been nice.

My guess is what they want would require acess to the system itself. Full access at that.

We got what we got, and it is enough. It is as damning as it can possibly be. If the Niantic response to this is 'not enough information', then there CAN NEVER be enough information.


We should not enable that bullshit line of response. This is not the time for victim blaming.

Well yes, very very nice in many cases!

Bingo.

As a former employee of multiple MMO companies: the evidence provided would be sufficient for bans for many of those involved.

Isn't Krug on vacay?

hes responding on and off in at least 1 room

Well officially, but we kinda rained on his day off

LOL

Well, we DID give him a head's up...

It would not lead to bans for every single one of those 900 people, but I would expect action against some.

Yeah, the position NIA is in right now is very uncomfortable with that.

Banning 900 players in America could lead to bad things

Itd become too strong on one faction.

then people stop playing

So does giving 900 people license to cheat

Not even about that; the level of proof and involvement is relevant.

that too

Oh, I dunno, seems like a lot of these bastards would just re-roll.

yup

for sure

Re-rolling is acceptable to NIA; the scraper is not.

But it's extremely unwise to do nothing, and most companies in this space would recognize that.

rougehelifyre is in it.

Just about every PNW RES agent who was banned for spoofing this year is in it.

Great.

@Strandit I am not familiar with devices and stuff - Can a dev design it so if we ban someone that the app won't work on a phone again

like a mac address

Nope; both Apple and Google are very careful about exposing underlying device IDs these days, for privacy reasons.

No. Not a technical but policy limitation.

hmm

I have a design for preserving a newly generated device ID across reinstalls on the same device, but it works poorly if the company only develops a single app.

IMEI numbers are unique, right? But Google and Apple won't permit it?

Right. And you can fuck with them if you're sufficiently smart.

share between pokemon and ingress?