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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-19
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Amber Yeary
Because they want people to know in the hopes of normalizing it?
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SCLori
So the burden of proving his innocence will be on him, if he's able.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Wouldn't they then have to say that they were in there collecting data on all these asshats for bans? Then they would have to follow through.
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SCLori
Then he can show us some acceptable proof of that being the case.
And it better be rock-solid if he wants to truly clear his name. But that only matters if he is there for some legit reason, which a very small possibility.
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
I think It should all be third person. WB wrote in 2nd person and I hadn't figured out the tense yet as I was editing and condensing. Apologies
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
I don’t know if it is helpful but perhaps reminding people just because someone is not PRESENTLY in a channel doesn’t mean they were not in it at some time - all the channels we have information for are open. It’s clear the expectation is that if you have access to this slack then “you’re in on it”
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
hes not going to show us anything
it will get handled behind closed doors at niantic without any satisfying response ever
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Nadia Amro
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
because thats how they do things
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
BAAAHAHAHAHA...😂
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Nadia Amro
Again, I might be way off base, but the thought had ran through my mind and I thought it fair to share it.
That's all.
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Aneristic (PHL)
This is a good point, I'd missed that.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
absolutely fair.
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Aneristic (PHL)
I agree with most of Nadia's points; I want to be free to react to this rather than posting the initial wave because politics, although it's probably unrealistic to think people won't figure out my involvement.
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
It is, especially considering we'll be getting the opposite argument: "I'm just in it, I never use it anymore"
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
If the release is handled as discussed and WB/Krug keeps quiet about The Who’s there shouldn’t be anything to directly connect any of us to it.


I know there’s IFs in there but imo that’s why we designed the release the way we did.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
ANYMORE
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SCLori
Oh, I completely agree he won't and probably couldn't even if he wanted to and had something to show. But that would be the only way to distance himself from this train wreck. Since that won't happen either way, he's going to get swept up in the guilt by association thing.
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
> @TheRealVedorian
ANYMORE


I get it, but even some of us were leaving some channels we once were added to but never use. Nothing of this scale granted, but cactus and poptart were and are real things ENL players are in channels with (and use).
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SCLori
As probably will happen with some others that were there but never used it. I'm sure there are a couple of those. Too bad. If you're a passenger in the get away car from a bank robbery, it doesn't matter that you were just getting a ride home and they happened to be going your way.
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
> @SCLori
As probably will happen with some others that were there but never used it. I'm sure there are a couple of those. Too bad. If you're a passenger in the get away car from a bank robbery, it doesn't matter that you were just getting a ride home and they happened to be going your way.


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John Bailey (@rekkanoryo L16 - OH/WV/PA, USA)
I requested access to the wordpress thing
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
ok, so I added notation for anomaly POCs, vanguards, niantic affiliated, and agent olympiad based on our notes to the main post
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CQ 🐛👑 Sarah
I hate to say it, and I love my northern allies, but I think they are Europe lite ™ when it comes to scraping and gray area tools.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
however, I cant support the POC or niantic affiliated statements
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
I may be getting the apps mixed up but wasn't there an involved process of getting sponsored or approved by two members along with something else before granted access or yada yada yada
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
and would like documentation for agent olympiad
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Yeah. WB said you had to cap a portal every thirty days to stay in the thing
If you don't you get a warning
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
so if someone wants to make a doc with working links for the niantic POC announcements of each of the agents marked, the agent olympiad announcement, etc
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
There is a pull quote where WB said you're not in there by accident. I made sure to ask for just this line of "I just joined and never used it"
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Olympiad
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
ty, added
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
> @CatrpilrQueen
I hate to say it, and I love my northern allies, but I think they are Europe lite ™ when it comes to scraping and gray area tools.


agreed, even some in detroit sided with the scraping after the A2 general chat convo
> @Arcticrebel
There is a pull quote where WB said you're not in there by accident. I made sure to ask for just this line of "I just joined and never used it"


ehh...it sounded like WB said you can be inactive in the slack forever with no issue. You just had to be active in Ingress (and not necessarily active guardian hunting or relating to the slack info) or you're warned in 30, kicked in 60.
not making excuses. Just want to make sure we have our facts straight. Maybe I misunderstood.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
unless I can cite it, I wouldnt publish anyways
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
No, I get ya. But when I asked the question it was designed to answer this line of thought. WB side stepped a bit, and I didn't push
Also, I woke up not 20 minutes ago and haven't had time to backlog to see where the conversation is at right now
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Amber Yeary
Are we going to note past PoCs or just recent ones?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
if we can support it
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Aneristic (PHL)
I don't know if anyone got copies of the POC spreadsheet before NIantic purged all the old info
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Amber Yeary
I think they might still be listed as contacts on the old pages on Live Events
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Aneristic (PHL)
It's all one spreadsheet
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
Interesting that you bring this up. I wonder how much they used this to enforce the rank structure within the faction. I know I read/heard many times about RES up the chain threatening those below them with burning their GP(s) if they didn't toe the line.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
That, and I'm thinking this is how their Fielding ops work, if you wanted a part of their op you have to be in this
And it does annoy the shit out of me how some players never seem to quit playing. Now I understand why
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Simplify. Reference Q3 and Q4 POCs, let people figure out the rest
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
alright
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Aneristic (PHL)
Yeah it's hard to go back to Recursion
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
who has the q3 and q4 poc list?
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Aneristic (PHL)
Q3 also got purged I think
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
ok, will do just Q4
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Aneristic (PHL)
[[Webpage]]POC list is typically linked here https://support.ingress.com/hc/en-us/articles/212001897
It's always been the same document but they started deleting or hiding old tabs. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KwrufwFaUrYf7Dc-G3mA7Xko27og6sSyQWr-vdPLFAw/edit#gid=591181292
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
changed to "current anomaly POC
and pared down to the 4 ppl I found on the sheet
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Rougehellfyre
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Very notable lol
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Aneristic (PHL)
thepfk also Q3 (:
if we're doing PDX pocs
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I'd love to include Q3 POCs
if that doc is still up anywhere
or a copy
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Sunnywoods was the poc that replaced rogue and thepfk
Also in your notes column
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
I think A3 is recent enough that we can have them marked without the doc.
But I get the philosophy
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I agree but it's not a major point — there's also something to be said for letting people go "wait, X was a POC."
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
If anyone is still looking for stuff to do
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Speaking of which. Was Tuckyourshirtin a POC for Maine
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
try breaking the website or finding out who I am from it
try commenting on anything
look for doodads and push them
Amber solved POC attribution problem
we have a copy of the sheet going back to Helios and will host it sanitized on gdocs
apparently you can download it from Niantic and unhide the tabs
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ollie (@ollietronic)
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Oh shit lol
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Is Krug currently viewing the anomaly POC sheet
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
yes he is
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
Is there a way so that when you click on a link to an external web page it opens in a new tab?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Yes, I can pick per link
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Is he making edits?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
no, he has the upper right corner highlighted
upper left
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
FWIW, I wouldn't single out Olympiad members, they weren't supposed to be leaders
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
let me consider it