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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-19
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Charlie Arnold
sorry, that was harsh. I've dealth with a lot of bullshit problems like this in my stupid career
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Amber Yeary
Taking away from the impactful message by not presenting it well will hurt the amplification
Period
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Charlie Arnold
it's probably not a thing we can solve with money. It might be something we can solve by tweaking the template, but we won't know until Erich is done with eggs and bakey
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Aneristic (PHL)
Fwiw the WordPress skin on my wedding website doesn't have this problem
And was also free
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Charlie Arnold
it's is almost certainly a skinning issue
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Amber Yeary
Yesssss, wedding exposΓ©
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Charlie Arnold
but as with all such things, fixing one thing will break something else
so it comes down to time and developer bandwidth
loathe as I am to disagree with Amber about anything, the color shift problem isn't THAT bad. It's not like we're using blink tags
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Aneristic (PHL)
Greatnorthern's blog also doesn't have this problem
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Charlie Arnold
but it's a legit beef. If we can fix it with a simple template change, that's desirable
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Aneristic (PHL)
Neither of them have spreadsheets though, I can't be totally sure
I just know that all the pages in this skin only take up half my screen on mobile
Some skins are better in Mobile than others. And there might be an option to enable better mobile compatibility
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Charlie Arnold
tables fuck EVERYTHING
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Amber Yeary
It's not a color shift, it's the list being off the page and not fit to content
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Charlie Arnold
it is known
I mean, welcome to HTML 3.0
le sigh
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Amber Yeary
Then go back to the list Erich had, highlight important names and link the spreadsheet
Done, problem fixed
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Aneristic (PHL)
It really is the table screwing it up hmm
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Amber Yeary
Text list, link sheet, hyperlink important names #notes
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Charlie Arnold
<table><tr><td>column</td><td>other column</td></tr></table> fuck my life kill me with acid
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Aneristic (PHL)
And embed the sheet where you want it would work. But I think we've had this argument before.
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Charlie Arnold
eh. It's up to Erich. He can fiddle with it or not.
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Amber Yeary
He needs to fiddle with it
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Aneristic (PHL)
It would definitely be good to have the landing page be more readable. Text list would work on that.
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Charlie Arnold
If I never debug another table formatting screen fit mobile desktop tablet fuck why doesn't this look perfect on MY screen issue again in my life it will be too soon
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Aneristic (PHL)
And maybe be more impactful.
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Charlie Arnold
It's probably good. We have two serious issues: the extraneous comment on the riot...one page and the table formatting issue on the homapage for mobile browsers
he'll probably have a couple of waking hours to spend on these things before intended launch. Both should be manageable.
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Aneristic (PHL)
And almost six hours to go. Thinking of what other things have been achieved in 6 hours it should be ok
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Charlie Arnold
if we can also solve some punctuation things and such, that's gravy
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Aneristic (PHL)
πŸ‘
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Charlie Arnold
yeah. we've come an awfully long way in the last 42
Forwarded messages
Hm.
Forwarded messages
Uhoh
Forwarded messages
never a good sign this time of day
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Amber Yeary
It's not about me, it's the audience. If we want people to take the message seriously, it must be presented professionally. If we can't figure out website formatting, why would anyone trust our ability to bring them accurate and complex information?
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Aneristic (PHL)
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Nadia Amro
Quick question regarding this file: are all the docs in from the WB?
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Charlie Arnold
I'm not arguing with you, it's just an obnoxious problem to have to solve.
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Nadia Amro
And I'm never going to get caught up when every time I try there's another 100 missed messages. :(
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Charlie Arnold
WB has nothing left to give us.
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Nadia Amro
Understood
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Charlie Arnold
work harder!
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Nadia Amro
But is everything in there from them? Written by them?
Specifically the docs?
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Aneristic (PHL)
The riot doc is stock I think not written by them?
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Charlie Arnold
everything in the shared folder 'WB Docs' was submitted by WB.
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Amber Yeary
Any chink in the armor will be an opportunity for the people this embarrasses
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Charlie Arnold
I get you
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Amber Yeary
Then don't say it's obnoxious, it's central
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Charlie Arnold
I can still hate it yo
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Amber Yeary
That's fine
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Space TooFar - Rochester NY
Would the table problem, if unfixable in the time we have, be lessened by the splash page with Anatomy of A Hit content that was discussed? That could be the primary packaging and people might look past the table issues after being sucked in by that.
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Amber Yeary
I hate most of the bullshit I have to do
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Charlie Arnold
It's obnoxious like a Trump presidency. Doesn't mean we shouldn't fix it, just not sure how to do that well in the next 5.75 hours
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Amber Yeary
Erich did it right initially. List, embed link to sheet
If we want to color change/bold/link to relevant posts the important people on the list that's much less involved
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Charlie Arnold
if we're going to display that table inline, no.


First fix is to change the skin and hope that wordpress has something that's optimized for mobile. Second fix is to shift from table to raw text list, which (in my opinion please don't beat me up over it) is worse than a busted table.
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Amber Yeary
It's all about appearances
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Charlie Arnold
but it's all splitting hairs. Neither method is going to fuck anything up.
Leading with 'anatomy' might be kinda great, but it's late in the game
if wordpress has a skin that comfortably fills a high percentage of the browser width, instead of a fixed width, and that also doesn't completely fuck the rest of the presentation, that'll probably work fine
the table is the only thing in the content that is really dependent on formatting
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Aneristic (PHL)
Lists also fix the search problem
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Or just change background color to the same as of that in the pages
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Charlie Arnold
lol yes
it would still be broken, it just wouldn't LOOK broken, so lol
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Aneristic (PHL)
You know, our respected opponents are going to accuse us of keeping track of player data when we leave this website up. It's exactly their style
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Charlie Arnold
they're going to say every damn thing in the world.
NUH UH
SO WHAT?
NO U DID!
UR MOM!
these things would be true no matter what argument we were making
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Amber Yeary
NO U's all the way down
It's their way
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Charlie Arnold
The analogs between this situation and my day job are hilarious to me
"Hi! We caught you stealing our software. Please buy it and also stop being awful."
"NUH UH IT WAS FREE OUR INTERN SAID SO"
"Allow me to introduce you to our General Counsel"
have the upper hand. Giggle at the stupid counterarguments. It's fine.
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Nadia Amro
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Is that a me issue?
As in my data or phone?
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matt - deaf1 - maine
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Nadia Amro
I can see it until I click on it
Damn it
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Because there's so many images in one sheet
Need to download them all
Happened to me too. Got to faster internet and there they we're
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Nadia Amro
So that's a no go for me before release then.
I'll be on a ferry on low signal
And fuck the ferry
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Charlie Arnold
It's not a big deal, just grab the google sheet
it has exactly the same data, just not the images. But the data is extracted from the images, and we spent a lot of eyeball time on getting that right. It's correct. Maybe a transcription error or 2
imma take a nap. bb in time for final site review
stuff goes live in 5ish hours