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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-18
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
I don't think they realize how much data can be scraped, even if they have some idea of what scraping is. RIOT is intimidatingly ridiculous
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
refresh
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Charlie Arnold
Prelude to TOS text, in bold:


"The technique of harvesting data in this fashion is called scraping. This is a violation of the Niantic Terms of Service.


<tos text goes here>
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SCLori
One of my best friends/ local frog got invited to an ENL guardian hunting slack by some people she knows in NJ .... She isn't into that sort of thing, so she doesn't know much else about it. Unsurprised but still sad face :/
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Aneristic (PHL)
In nj's defense I don't think anyone I know in NJ claims friendship with those guys
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
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Charlie Arnold
the search fuction is fantastic, but needs to work better
this may be really hard to implement within wordpress
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
free wordpress
CH
Charlie Arnold
but god the idea is so good
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
there are a ton of better search plugins
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Charlie Arnold
all we need is simple javascript
like super simple javascript
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
that require like $8 a month professional upgrade
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Charlie Arnold
I can write this.
it would take a couple of hours. I'm out of practice
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SCLori
Good to know. I just hate hearing proof it exists even though we know it does, ya know?
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Charlie Arnold
putting that on my to do list
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Aneristic (PHL)
Yes, me too
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Charlie Arnold
can we make the font size on the roster table about... oh, 65% of what it is currently?
and center the text in all the 'yes' columns?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
theyre all left justified
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Charlie Arnold
back to the main page. This part:


"– all the portals belonging to a specified agent, including capture dates


– the longest-held portals for a given region


– heatmaps of agents’ activity, including home portals and frequently visited portals


– agents’ Ingress start dates"


should be formatted as an unordered list.


like:


<ul>
<li>thing</li>
<li>thing</li>
&c...
</ul>
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Aneristic (PHL)
Yes please
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Charlie Arnold
for each of the things I say, just take it or leave it. I know I'm being nitpicky AF, I just can't help it
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Aneristic (PHL)
Bullet points would be pretty
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I can do bullet points
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matt - deaf1 - maine
The list of people on front page isnt updated with the RIOT members
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
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Charlie Arnold
I think that list on the main page should just be the roster.
and the menu option that currently goes to roster on a separate page should instead be an internal bookmark to the roster. The more it reads like a brochure, the better.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I dont follow this
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Charlie Arnold
Anatomy of a Hit is the most powerful piece of work on the site. It lays out in very clear terms what all thsi shit means
sorry.


Um, instead of having a list of names on the main page, just put the roster on the main page.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
oh, ok.
I dont want to collapse it.
i get you
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Charlie Arnold
Keep the roster link on the menu, but instead of having it link to a separate page, have it scroll to the point on the main page where the roster is
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
Like an inline link or whatever that stuff was? With hashtags?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I dont think I like that. The post becomes huge
let me try it
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Charlie Arnold
I think I like it
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Aneristic (PHL)
Is it actually Intel.ingress.com?
[[Webpage]]Isn't it www.ingress.com/intel?
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Charlie Arnold
[[Webpage]]oh gosh thanks. No. It's ingress.com/intel
good catch
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Aneristic (PHL)
Also maybe make it a link
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Charlie Arnold
no if you do then people will click it and get distracted.
but, here's an example of something that should be links:
"790 Resistance agents across the world, including Niantic employees, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs, currently have access to these features directly. There is no way to know how many other agents interact with the bots they administer, but it is estimated to be in the thousands."
changes to:
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Aneristic (PHL)
The end of my paragraph (about scraping) and Charlie's thing about scraping are sort of redundant now
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Charlie Arnold
790 Resistance agents across the world, including Niantic employees [1], Vanguards [1] [2] [3], and anomaly POCs [however many], currently have access to these features directly. There is no way to know how many other agents interact with the bots they administer, but it is estimated to be in the thousands.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Q4 pocs only?
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Charlie Arnold
where the numbers are hyperlinks to the specific images where those people are captured, and those images are modified to include highlights around the specified people
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
That’s a serious call out.
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Charlie Arnold
it's the whole point
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Any interest changing thousands at the end to “five figures”
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Charlie Arnold
"this is not just your rank and file, it's your thought leaders"
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Good point.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
get me the names
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Charlie Arnold
yeah I'll do the work one sec
CQ
CQ 🐛👑 Sarah
👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Charlie Arnold
well maybe 20 mins. I need to walk around or something.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Also you don't actually define scraping, you use the word and then refer to it as a technique.
But you don't say in what fashion
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Charlie Arnold
so make it better :) you have a point
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Aneristic (PHL)
I'm going to bed
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Amber Yeary
This is less fact and more spin
All these embellishments are for later personal G+posts
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Charlie Arnold
yes but we're not saying those words. We're just putting the most relevant facts in front.
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Amber Yeary
I thought we agreed to let the facts speak for themselves
CH
Charlie Arnold
true, it could be that also
gradations are hard
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Amber Yeary
Assuming our audience is stupid doesn't set up a good start
JU
Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
"here is some stuff, make of it what you will". /drop mic
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Charlie Arnold
yeah ok. You guys are right
I need to click the viewfinder back one notch
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL 🇺🇸]
Linking to images is just citation, not embellishment or assuming the audience is stupid. Highlights may be overkill.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I think you link to their names in the list
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Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
I think everyone will definitely read all the names looking for people they know
No worries there
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
But they may not recognize which are POCs, vanguards, etc
JU
Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I thnk noting the VIPs is not offmark
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Amber Yeary
Guiding people along a narrative when anyone with sense can see what's happening is disingenuous and will be off-putting
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL 🇺🇸]
I wouldn't without all y'all's help.
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Charlie Arnold
anatomy of a hit does need a narrative link. After the first set of four thumbnail screenshots, maybe a hyperlink that says:


"Here's a complete example of how it works:"
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
no, I dont think we say "these are our thought leaders"
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Charlie Arnold
yes. I was just talking about inline hyperlinks to the most interesting bits. The language in quotes was internal monologue, not proposed exposition
JU
Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
Is there a simple way to notate VIPs without such blatant callouts (which could seem spin-y)?
I realize that is kinda contradicting...
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Amber Yeary
Here's what this naughty behavior is. Here's a Slack dedicated to this naughty behavior. Here's the list of people in that Slack. Here's the naughty behavior in that Slack in progress
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Charlie Arnold
it would literally just be hyperlinks after the pertinent categories. For instance:


"Vanguards [1] [2] [3] [4]' where the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 are each hyperlinks to images that open in a new window, each depicting a RES vanguard
JU
Julie M, doozle, CLE USA
I realize that
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Charlie Arnold
it doesn't have to be like that. It's a feature, not a necessity. Maybe it's overkill, could totally accept that
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Names on the roster. "These are facts, here's what they are."