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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-18
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Maybe not edt but it is 1 pm somewhere.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
you're getting an uncomfortable talking to from @Semiotiq soon.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Thrakazog
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Heh. Iโ€™m not trying to rush it. I must admit to wanting to see some squirming.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Terran was KC POC
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
๐Ÿ˜†
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
You have to seed it to start at whatever number the count is for users. :)
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
There are a few res i know on that list that are good people
But.
If youre gonna get caught up in not so great things.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Good people and scraping are not actually incompatible.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Nevermind.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Oh forsure
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Especially if this is presented as normal
And honestly, with 900 people
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Mystickittie is on there ... interesting.
Thats where wutangsammich gets his fuel to keep spoofing.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
How could you not see it as normal?
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
โ€œNormalโ€ and โ€œwrongโ€ blend together at that point
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Aneristic (PHL)
You have been inducted into the Cool Kids Club. It is an honor and a privilege and you'd better be good or we'll kick you out. Please do not reveal the shitty secrets the Cool Kids Club is built upon.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Basically.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Your community needs these services. Your community needs you in a position of power to advocate for them.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
That's much more damaging.
their hierarchy is clearer, and they can earn more access
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Also, yes, I saw Hosette.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Righteous indignation is a hell of a drug.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I had a conversation with her post-Russell in which she explained she didn't do this.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
There are good people on this list, who honestly believe this is ok
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Aneristic (PHL)
And there are good people on this list who have explicitly lied to us about such a thing existing.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
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Aneristic (PHL)
We've probably lied to them too.
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
That they would have been stopped if something so widespread and blatant was actually against the rules.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
My people in this tell me that they get their info from others
While theyre admins in this
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Charlie Arnold
worst thing
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
Lying to the other faction is something we all do
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
This is how I participated in a UIGEA violation back in the day.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
THAT is why iโ€™m so against this on a personal level, betrayed trust.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
They have devs in chat ffs
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
โ€œIโ€™m at workโ€
/farms keys
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Is like Joe Philley talking about how cool drones are
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Isnโ€™t ours built on liver stretching and cats?
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
That doesn't make this violation okay in my book. But recognize that it's a matter of degrees
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
"These companies are advertising on Network Television, their workaround has to be kosher and not money laundering."
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matt - deaf1 - maine
im trying to make sense, which is more restricted access, radar, riot, or bot
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I'm getting so grr about this. I think I need to step away
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CQ ๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ‘‘ Sarah
Exactly.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Theres a degree on what is lying for opsec reasons and what is lying for things like this
Worded poorly but you get what I mean
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
The devs in chats insulates everyone else.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
I agree. They may not. Be prepared for a lack of shame
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
Clearly this is OK, because otherwise the adults would have made us stop.
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CQ ๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ‘‘ Sarah
Yeah. It definitely feels like old ingress... Res play on easy mode, Enl play on nightmare mode
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Aneristic (PHL)
....but aren't you the adults?
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Iโ€™m going anon with this to see how my res react toorrlw
Some of us play nightmare.
I play fixed zoom in the boonies mode
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CQ ๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ‘‘ Sarah
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ]
People have a way of self-deluding on this subject.
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CQ ๐Ÿ›๐Ÿ‘‘ Sarah
Can I just say how inordinately proud it makes me that I picked green and not blue? Like, they just cheat their way through and constantly harangue us in comms and social media for being cheaters ourselves... It's so gross from the outside, and now I can see how gross it is on the inside... I know there are bad actors who wear green too, I'm not naive, and I try to consider everyone as an ingresser not matter the color but this feels... Fundamental to the differences in our factions.
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Charlie Arnold
Everyone who plays this game for pink slips knows that if you fuck up, you're going to get smeared.
They're about to get smeared at an insitutional level. It's fine. Keep it professional.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Where do I see the new names list?
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Charlie Arnold
check pin
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I did. Were the new names simply added to the existing list?
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Aneristic (PHL)
also in the riot tab
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Charlie Arnold
Yes, incorporated into the master.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
...ok. I'll recheck it in a bit
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Charlie Arnold
ok time to attack this website with a monocle and a whisk
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
what copy still needs written?
ready to take a crack at a page
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matt - deaf1 - maine
roster doesnt include riot
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
its about to
I need RADAR
And riot.one
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Charlie Arnold
Would like to a simple statement to head the right side column when I'm first looking at the page.


"Riot is..." etc.
Then the screenshot
I know this is nitpicky AF but I hate mixing serif and sans serif fonts
This is a big one
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
Ok. I'll start with RADAR. and then move to Riot if no one else has taken it when I'm done. I
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Charlie Arnold
Lead statement language change recommendation:


"
RIOT is a database application that aggregates information scraped from intel.ingress.com and agent scanner data and makes it available for agents to search."
the differences are subtle but important. Databases don't aggregate things, applications do. The scanner implications are important.
It reads like


"WHAM"


//screenshot


*tos in case you forgot*
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
[[GIF, size 76'206 bytes]]
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Aneristic (PHL)
Right, because we got the scanner stuff after writing the first draft.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
so where does the TOS definition go?
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Charlie Arnold
my recommendation would be:


lead statement
screenshot
TOS stuff
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matt - deaf1 - maine
a pop up
kidding
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
Use frames and have it ALWAYS THERE at the top
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Charlie Arnold
I'm going to be a total pain in the ass for a while. Please forgive me. Nudgy language recommendations coming, please take them or leave them.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I tried that and it weakens the flow
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
Weak flow sounds like a side effect of certain medicines and something that may be worth a doctor visit
(sorry)
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
ok, refresh and look again
you are so close to a your mom joke
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Aneristic (PHL)
People really don't know what scraping is
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Charlie Arnold
Recommend changing:


"Access and maintenance of the RIOT database occurs in a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this Slack, authorized Resistance agents can find in seconds:"


to


"Access to and maintenance of the RIOT database is centralized wihin a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this slack and associated automation tools, authorized agents can find in seconds:"


Notes:


- 'centralized within' versus 'occurs' nods to the distributed nature of the system
- removing 'Resistance' makes the website more neutral
- And associated automation tools nods to the distribution network (there is more than one devil)
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ)
centralized *within
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matt - deaf1 - maine
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
took out associated