2017-10-18
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Maybe not edt but it is 1 pm somewhere.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Thrakazog
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Heh. Iโm not trying to rush it. I must admit to wanting to see some squirming.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Terran was KC POC
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
You have to seed it to start at whatever number the count is for users. :)
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Aneristic (PHL)
Good people and scraping are not actually incompatible.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Nevermind.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Oh forsure
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Mystickittie is on there ... interesting.
Thats where wutangsammich gets his fuel to keep spoofing.
Thats where wutangsammich gets his fuel to keep spoofing.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
How could you not see it as normal?
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
โNormalโ and โwrongโ blend together at that point
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Aneristic (PHL)
You have been inducted into the Cool Kids Club. It is an honor and a privilege and you'd better be good or we'll kick you out. Please do not reveal the shitty secrets the Cool Kids Club is built upon.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
Basically.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Your community needs these services. Your community needs you in a position of power to advocate for them.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Also, yes, I saw Hosette.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Righteous indignation is a hell of a drug.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I had a conversation with her post-Russell in which she explained she didn't do this.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐บ๐ธ]
There are good people on this list, who honestly believe this is ok
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Aneristic (PHL)
And there are good people on this list who have explicitly lied to us about such a thing existing.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐บ๐ธ]
Yes
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Aneristic (PHL)
We've probably lied to them too.
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
That they would have been stopped if something so widespread and blatant was actually against the rules.
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Charlie Arnold
worst thing
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐บ๐ธ]
Lying to the other faction is something we all do
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
This is how I participated in a UIGEA violation back in the day.
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
THAT is why iโm so against this on a personal level, betrayed trust.
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ollie (@ollietronic)
They have devs in chat ffs
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James P. Violentwaves142 IN E16
โIโm at workโ
/farms keys
/farms keys
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ollie (@ollietronic)
Is like Joe Philley talking about how cool drones are
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Isnโt ours built on liver stretching and cats?
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐บ๐ธ]
That doesn't make this violation okay in my book. But recognize that it's a matter of degrees
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
"These companies are advertising on Network Television, their workaround has to be kosher and not money laundering."
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matt - deaf1 - maine
im trying to make sense, which is more restricted access, radar, riot, or bot
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I'm getting so grr about this. I think I need to step away
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CQ ๐๐ Sarah
Exactly.
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
The devs in chats insulates everyone else.
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Cate [Intoku, WA, ๐บ๐ธ]
I agree. They may not. Be prepared for a lack of shame
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
Clearly this is OK, because otherwise the adults would have made us stop.
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CQ ๐๐ Sarah
Yeah. It definitely feels like old ingress... Res play on easy mode, Enl play on nightmare mode
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Aneristic (PHL)
....but aren't you the adults?
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CQ ๐๐ Sarah
Lol
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL ๐บ๐ธ]
People have a way of self-deluding on this subject.
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CQ ๐๐ Sarah
Can I just say how inordinately proud it makes me that I picked green and not blue? Like, they just cheat their way through and constantly harangue us in comms and social media for being cheaters ourselves... It's so gross from the outside, and now I can see how gross it is on the inside... I know there are bad actors who wear green too, I'm not naive, and I try to consider everyone as an ingresser not matter the color but this feels... Fundamental to the differences in our factions.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Where do I see the new names list?
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Charlie Arnold
check pin
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I did. Were the new names simply added to the existing list?
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Charlie Arnold
Yes, incorporated into the master.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
...ok. I'll recheck it in a bit
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Charlie Arnold
ok time to attack this website with a monocle and a whisk
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matt - deaf1 - maine
roster doesnt include riot
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
Ok. I'll start with RADAR. and then move to Riot if no one else has taken it when I'm done. I
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Charlie Arnold
Lead statement language change recommendation:
"
RIOT is a database application that aggregates information scraped from intel.ingress.com and agent scanner data and makes it available for agents to search."
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RIOT is a database application that aggregates information scraped from intel.ingress.com and agent scanner data and makes it available for agents to search."
the differences are subtle but important. Databases don't aggregate things, applications do. The scanner implications are important.
It reads like
"WHAM"
//screenshot
*tos in case you forgot*
"WHAM"
//screenshot
*tos in case you forgot*
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐บ๐ธ)
[[GIF, size 76'206 bytes]]
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Aneristic (PHL)
Right, because we got the scanner stuff after writing the first draft.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
so where does the TOS definition go?
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Charlie Arnold
my recommendation would be:
lead statement
screenshot
TOS stuff
lead statement
screenshot
TOS stuff
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐บ๐ธ)
Use frames and have it ALWAYS THERE at the top
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Charlie Arnold
I'm going to be a total pain in the ass for a while. Please forgive me. Nudgy language recommendations coming, please take them or leave them.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I tried that and it weakens the flow
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Aneristic (PHL)
People really don't know what scraping is
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Charlie Arnold
Recommend changing:
"Access and maintenance of the RIOT database occurs in a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this Slack, authorized Resistance agents can find in seconds:"
to
"Access to and maintenance of the RIOT database is centralized wihin a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this slack and associated automation tools, authorized agents can find in seconds:"
Notes:
- 'centralized within' versus 'occurs' nods to the distributed nature of the system
- removing 'Resistance' makes the website more neutral
- And associated automation tools nods to the distribution network (there is more than one devil)
"Access and maintenance of the RIOT database occurs in a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this Slack, authorized Resistance agents can find in seconds:"
to
"Access to and maintenance of the RIOT database is centralized wihin a Slack team called The Brokers Guild. Using this slack and associated automation tools, authorized agents can find in seconds:"
Notes:
- 'centralized within' versus 'occurs' nods to the distributed nature of the system
- removing 'Resistance' makes the website more neutral
- And associated automation tools nods to the distribution network (there is more than one devil)
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Jemstar (15/~PIT ๐บ๐ธ)
centralized *within
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matt - deaf1 - maine
lol
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
took out associated