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@JemstarENL, looks like a hit got called in and the hit was made. Direct correlation can be established. Right?

Sounds like it

It really is perfect - there's the request for data on a player, then the request for the nearest res, one committs to hitting it in slack but before he can the first player returned goes and hits it.

where are you seeing this...new screen shots?

The new screen shots show the requests in slack, then I looked in intel and the hit happened at 15:18 EDT

Perhaps we will get lucky and get another couple of examples before tomorrow.

Just finished inputting all 671 names from Riot into a spreedsheet, that includes the bot.

ok, so this kinda got personal for me. I'd like to sign the about page and have others join me. I'll abide a group decision on it, if we prefer to remain anonymous.

I would suggest remaining anonymous. There's going to be a lot of pissed off RES and potentially someone without a job over this.

Agreed. Don't give them a convenient redirect.

Yep, anon

Keep it about the data

Rant in chatter

website is designed to be anonymous for a reason. Minimize pushback vectors.


I feel you, but trust me, they're going to get the personal end of things too.

alright.

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Whoever has permission to edit, I'm thinking only @Semiotiq let me know and I'll send them access to this so we can make a new tab.

Question:. Does RIOT functionality mean that they could even locate players solely from hacking? One of the flip flops claimed they could.

Mod placement yes, hacking only no.

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Looks good. If you'd like me to do a light attribution attack on it let me know.

once I go from private to hidden, yes

Nevermind, I'm dumb... I have edit priviliges... Sorry

Unless the brokers have access to Niantic data I can't think of a way they could see hacks.


The only thing remotely close would be if someone were looking at portals via keys through the scanner and XM were missing around the portal.


That would indicate someone without a Lawson/Circle-K enabled is near the given portal; however, it wouldn't reveal who, or whether they're hacking or not.


Long story short, simulating a scanner via scripts seems highly unlikely at best, and still wouldn't reveal much.

Raw data on names and if giraffes are next to them are not entered into new RIOT tab on the spreadsheet. Please feel free to fix the look of it.

Shift from "resistance scraping network" to "Ingress scraping network"

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I want my name. I want them to know I was here.

we are not open for comment at this time

OK rgr you're right. Le sigh.

You will do your damage on G+. we all will

i'm gonna stay anon to get juicy post-"shit hits the fan" details

Is there an elegant way to hide IGNs of people who want them on there? Like how Niantic would hide a passcode?

Look, this is important:


This landed in my lap, and it took me about 90 seconds to share it with all of you.


In the same vein, it's on all of us to give it to everyone else.


We don't own this, we're just taking care of it for a little while.

Sorry for the spam @Semiotiq just didn't want to spend an hour typing names and not get it loaded.

You are right.

good job!

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the less factional we come across, the better. The data tells the story.

at this time

Thx, I figured he was full of it... But I never expected all of the other stuff I've seen in the past few days either!

Thoughts:


Should we get international in the next 18 hours before release?

We might be well served to have a few additional viewpoints on this.

I'd like to get perspectives from Canda, Europe, Australia.


I don't know anyone in Asia.

or South America. But having one representative from each of those seems...useful

if we had good candidates.

to the extent we're willing to include others from outside early, this is a very good idea

it would meaningfully impact signal boost.

there is risk, but familiarity mitigates that. We'd need to feel very good about the candidates.

When's release date?

If there are trustworthy folks you have in mind, by all means, bring them in.

I'd be ok with Appletalk and Rhainedrop.

Thursday 10/19 1 PM EDT earliest

Echoing back the previous sentiment about the added risks with the more people we alert

Yeah. I'm doing the risk-reward math.

One thing we did poorly on recharge was failure to engage the international audience on the front end.

I mean, I don't have a strong objection, just wondering if the risk is any different now than it was a few hours ago.

I think that Enl versions of these tools are more widely spread overseas, and we're less likely to find fertile ground.

I don't have strong reasons for this excepting the origin point of Cactus.

This would be a matter of specifically targeting a small handful of trusted minds to provide international perspective

Europe is +5 minimum from us so a lot of them will be headed to bed soon. Maybe we could ask them to be prepared to signal boost a major announcement in the early evening their time tomorrow - but explain details are not available until shortly before release?

we could get their attention in time for them to review and comment

not necessarily before sleepytimes but definitely upon waking. The kinds of people we'd be asking are as glued to their feeds as we are.

ok, I am taking a brief break to travel and get foodstuffs.

I thought we were worried about people blowing this up early. I'd prefer not to bring others in

if you want to see the page preview, I need your email

DMing

Europe and Australia have their own agendas, I don't know that we can expect them to be coming from the same place

ok. I'm willing to accept that as unacceptable risk

let's put gmail addresses in DM to @theprevaricator for nospam purposes

Their buy-in would be valuable but getting it, I'm not sure

Remember what happened with fenris and the spoof group

the whistleblower turned to someone he thought was trustworthy and they tipped off the spoofers

not that this would happen exactly here

It's cool. Just floating ideas, not wedded to them.

Thinking about how this thing looks over the next 19 hours

Okay so more relevantly: for this WordPress site is there any reason not to put my normal email address etc?

By noon eastern, we need to be doing final pass review on the website

once it goes public, your email will be expunged

its a permissions list that wont be used

Everything Will Be Fine

ok, sent up to now, getting in the car, please somehow orderly give me thoughts

Wrong room, dammit

there is some content yet to add.

ok, so let's limit channel chatter to website review and critical new content only for a while

My WordPress login is the same as my agent name. That won't make a difference for simply viewing, will it?

I don't think so. Right now it's all private

And you won't be leaving any traces

Whistle Chatter link for off topic chats related to this...

lol Brett beat me to it. thanks

adding to pin

lol, I didn't add my main acct and don't want to log into throwaway from phone

So I guess I won't be able to obsessively review myself.

If I didn't respond to your dm it's because I'm in the car and will send once I stop

ok so if you have website feedback, @theprevaricator with it here and maybe #tag appropriately. There's going to be a lot of this, probably, and we need to keep it organized, and we need to not spin off another channel.


Between now and release, there's not anything currently more important than getting this right.

@theprevaricator "The inner workings of a Ingress scraping network" an

I fix your thing last minute out the door....