Whistle Orga

So, status.


Aside from whatever new activity from the bot trickles in via screenshots to the WB TG over the next 24 hours, we've gotten all the data we're going to get.


Erich is handling the implementation of the website, and I'm on standby to assist him with any gruntwork in that regard.


Jemstar is going to take care of the Reddit splash.


Everyone seems ok with the website framework and language.


We will all pick up the Reddit post and signal boost on g+ at an organic pace.


What's left?

That's why I deleted my DM to him 😅

one thing we could do is better populate our bad actor spreadsheet with AO and notes

still at least 50% blank entries there

There are people in the RIOT ss that I know

Not on master list yet

ok, I'll work on that

The RIOT stuff is maybe the most damning of it all.

if you haven't reviewed the contents of that folder yet, do so

I am FINALLY through all the backlog here. I still have to look at the new stuff on the drive, but I have a bit of time and can do grunt work if needed.

Krug has read mine

Same

"Monday is going to be.... interesting" - RedSoloCup

Tomorrow better be more interesting

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Yeah there are names on the riot list not already on the master

I just caught a couple

I should have some time at work this afternoon, I will try to type out the Riot names on a spread sheet. (I doubt I'm the fastest or best.)

I'm going through it. It's a slow roll

Krug read mine. No response. But then he had 10 of the same lol

I'm about up on grading so I will have time to be useful here if needed in a bit.

What's left? Get your popcorn supplies ready.... Tomorrow is indeed going to be interesting!

Posting action items as I think of them:


All hands on deck edit pass on the website before it goes live. This will be a short and intense activity tomorrow around noon eastern. Please be available if you can.


We'll focus on fail conditions, not minutiae.

Also, WB said anyone with the giraffee next to their name is an ADMIN OR DEV

that's worth noting

Slightly off-topic, but those of you watching The Good Place will appreciate the irony of these "mean giraffes"....

lolol

Andrew has not read my message

I wonder if after the first 5, he thought "geez, enough already. I'm not reading that"

Maybe, but I'd have at least clicked thru them to clear the notifications!

That answers the question of what that hex key is....

Probably.

This leads me to wonder if there's not a feed from the backend Niantic is unaware of that contains some of this information.

Whistle Blower:
Hidden stats do not matter when we are hitting the guid from the back end

The guid part I know about, but getting mod install info as a feed? I don't think the scanner even gets it that way, you have to bring up the portal info in the scanner or in intel - so are they scanning portals constantly?

Whether they know about it or not, we can verify its existence.

Jesus fucking christ

I'm not IT but does that mean they ha E direct access to Niantic server stuff?

Nope

This is what I'm wondering - maybe not direct access in but a feed sent out?

no, they're just picking up every scanner ping worldwide.


When a mod happens, it pings the scanner. Scanner alerts the server that a change has happened. Server scans the portal affected and performs a delta on last known state of that portal. Changes reported.

Means that — yeah

How? It's not like that is sent as a feed to the scanner or intel.

virtualized scanners

This is almost certainly also how cactus works

Yes, it is.

I really didn't think mod changes were reported to the scanner that way.

When you have intel up, portal data is sent every time a portal is modified

And then you just request data on that portal, simulating a click.

yeah. If you did a packet analysis on the Ingress process you'd see it

The scanner has to have some amount of push in order to properly render visual effects like the shield bubble

You have to piece together two feeds, but no big

I know reso/cap/status is sent as a feed, I just didn't think mod was.

Maintain a list of all portals

And mods

Then if you see a portal change, retrieve the mod list, and it’s different, you know what happened

or reso upgrade

Yep

"Dear Niantic:


Resistance have an API to the portal network backend. Please hire one of them to make this a resource instead of a disgrace."

Is it possible for the dev to flag accounts so they won't get banned? Trying not to be too tinfoil hat here but the dev being involved makes me wonder what resources are available to them.

That's not quite right. The API is what feeds your scanner apps as well.

I truly admire what they've accomplished from a technical perspective. Set aside the ethics and politics of it, and it's just... really fucking impressive.

Aye.

And they're doing it for fun. Imagine what's going on in the real world with people who have a financial motivation. :)

They just posted a db pull and commit to take it down shortly.

its perfection

yeah. this website is going to be...

oy

I don't even know

it already happened

it was the 1st agent in the list, not the one who responded

Got em

and its even better because its my locals

what happened?

they hit the guardian

that they just called out

wow

Is this something that WB is talking about in the other channel or am I missing where the info is coming from?

Erich, could you get a screenshot of stock intel comms on that kill?

Got it

Got it.

Awesome -- thank you, good catch.

Hahahah!

I'm calling it anatomy of a hit

Crazy.

Oh man we need the play by play ont he website

Yes please!

I'm terribly proud of this team.

That sequence will be very difficult for Niantic to look at and not ban, imo. But they'll find a way to do the wrong thing anyway.

This is huge.

I'm so glad it happened before the release.

Yes, direct evidence of query, request, and action.

it couldnt happen to a worse asshole

general has made several of my friends cry.

what more could you ask for really

Not much else at this point. :)

Whoa what? I just woke up from quick a nap

Something happened already ?

Agreed, it's pretty damn clever. Too bad what they're doing with it just f**king wrong.