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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-18
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
The question I can't stop asking is how RES manages to fail so badly across the board with tools like this at their disposal.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
lol true
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
I think this is one of the core reasons that ENL is more successful. There is more of a sense of involvement, wanting to work with others, as opposed to secrets, and playing for yourself.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
or, if you prefer, how we manage to win so consistently without these same tools being this ingrained into our culture.
I try my best to avoid making sweeping statements about how either faction functions, but there are some interesting differences.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
So this. i have been thinking it all morning.
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
Yeah, I didn't mean for it to come across as a generalization across the board, I should rephrase.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Like, we were beating them a year ago using portal summary, drawtools, and glympse when they had reswue and this
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
I've been thinking it since Obsidian.
;-)
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Aneristic (PHL)
These aren't anomaly tools.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I mean in my cell.
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Pongolyn | Seattle, WA
Aren't they?
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SCLori
[[Webpage]]I'm a work and a bit behind on the chatter today, but I wanted to share this..... TheBobs is on this list, as I knew he would be, and here is some info on him and his scraping from awhile back. He's a Charlotte player. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ingress/comments/4lwm62/advice_with_dealing_with_out_of_control_local/
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
A bunch of the functions have no use in anomaly contexts
But virus data maybe
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
Indeed. Most of us here in State College scored the black Guardian sooner or later.
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Aneristic (PHL)
Let's not assume things that aren't in the data
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Amber Yeary
Chatter for specific res
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SCLori
Another player eventually got the scripts from this poster and led to the IP address being TheBobs work computer. Said computer also contained health insurance info and was a potential for major HIPPA violations. All of this was reported to Niantic at the time. No ban, no nothing.
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Charlie Arnold
Yes ma'am.
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
@Semiotiq, just thought of something, seems pretty important. Right before we put things out there we ought to ensure we inspect the files themselves, removing any useful metadata.
Even the filenames ought to be changed. 01.png, 02.png, etc.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Wow, just sat down and started looking at the riot docs - it couldn't be more obvious they come right out and say it.
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Amber Yeary
It's gross
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
Also appears to be an SQL interface, I wonder if we could get the SQL server to identify itself so we'd know more about where it's hosted.
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Charlie Arnold
Ok gang, I've run the notification past WB and WB is on board. It's time to ping @redSoloCup
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I checked the ones prior to today and renumbered them
The new ones need to be gone over.
Need a hand with that?
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Charlie Arnold
If you wish to do so, please send this message or some close variant to @redSoloCup now:


We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Niantic employees, Niantic investors, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs are identified among those agents involved.


We will release the information sometime after noon on Thursday the 19th. The team agreed that we should provide you a chance to prepare.


We know you're backlogged, so we're going to send this message from several people simultaneously to ensure that you receive it. Apologies for the spam.
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Amber Yeary
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Charlie Arnold
if you do, please ding the bell so we know who all has sent
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Aneristic (PHL)
Niantic investors?
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Charlie Arnold
one sec
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Report back if he reads it
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Charlie Arnold
Scr33n
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Aneristic (PHL)
And we know this in a reasonable way?
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Charlie Arnold
heh. really do need a few more people to send that message. If he's 500 messages in the hole, it's going to take a bunch of pings
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
How many have sent so far?
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Charlie Arnold
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Amber Yeary
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Charlie Arnold
From WB, in response to "What was your motivation":


"We had an agent in the guild that had 74 spoof bot accounts banned in one day. I have never spoofed or any desire to but after that it made me realize that using this isn't that much better. And who knows how many other spoofers are members, or feeding information to spoofers.
I can't change the things I have done by using this all I can do is move forward and play a straight up game from here forward."
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Amber Yeary
I replaced it with "in professional and trusted roles", I liked the read when @slykens typed it
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Charlie Arnold
oh yes that is good. I missed that edit suggestion from Scott, I would have used it too
I hit the ground running on 3 hours of sleep this morning
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Amber Yeary
Does WB ever call you brother?
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
So from...


We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Niantic employees, Niantic investors, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs are identified among those agents involved.


...to...?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
@redsolocup
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Amber Yeary
@redSoloCup
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
No, I mean the language change. It was changed to non-specific.
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Aneristic (PHL)
That's a terribly good reason. Respect to WB.
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Amber Yeary
Should come up Andrew Krug
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Charlie Arnold
our relationship is pretty dry :)
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Amber Yeary
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I can respect this
Need more people to ping krug?
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Amber Yeary
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Charlie Arnold
@slykens can you repost? I'm out of brain. Or @TheMedellia
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
As I settle down for a long winter's site design, I need to know how much we care that ur is anonymous, and whether anyone wants to be identified
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Amber Yeary
We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Individuals in professional and trusted roles are identified among those agents involved.


We will release the information sometime after noon on Thursday the 19th. The team agreed that we should provide you a chance to prepare.


We know you're backlogged, so we're going to send this message from several people simultaneously to ensure that you receive it. Apologies for the spam.
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Charlie Arnold
yes please. I'd like to see 10+


It's metadata, in addition to utility
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CQ πŸ›πŸ‘‘ Sarah
Channel preview lets you do a lot without joining, including reading messages and seeing a member list
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
While reviewing the information we found some people in trusted roles.
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
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Amber Yeary
This is better
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
Ding, ding, both TG and HO, where I already had a chat history with him.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
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Charlie Arnold
Confirmation from WB that all the data she can harvest has now been pushed.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
That's very vague. We at least need to mention that they are resistance agents in trusted roles
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Also this.
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
A RES scraper network imp[lies they are RES. :)
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
Yes, but it just sounds really abrupt.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
So WB is going to sit back now and watch the world burn?
Ours to handle from here
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Scott Lykens (@5parkee)
And drink the scotch and bourbon we will anonymously send. :)
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Can we send her marshmallows?
Can't have a good bonfire without marshmallows
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SCLori
YES! She deserves some, and a lot more!
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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Charlie Arnold
I am working with WB on a method for her to interface the group. Might take the form of a new TG spinup
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
Smores would go great with the scotch
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
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Sara TeslaKoiled (Chicago, USA)
[[Photo]]
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Charlie Arnold
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Kim (hardcandy37) Pelletier
good point
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
Woah, that kitty didn't even look back.
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Elliot (@SKSM5966 - Central PA)
"Hello Andrew.


We recently received information documenting a large RES scraper network. Individuals in professional and trusted roles are identified among those agents involved.


We will release the information sometime after noon on Thursday the 19th. The team agreed that we should provide you a chance to prepare.


We know you're backlogged, so we're going to send this message from several people simultaneously to ensure that you receive it.


Sincere apologies for the spam."
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Amber Yeary
Lol, I'm not talking to WB. I stuck my neck out enough already
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ)
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Charlie Arnold
I figure lots of people won't, and that's fine. No obligations, just a chance
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Just got done doing surgeries. Has the die been cast?
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Charlie Arnold
alea iacta est