Whistle Orga

KC enl anomaly POC can tell me who the res POCs were, yes?

But you're privileging cities based on where Niantic chose to have an anomaly.

I'm not saying exclusively.

Just as a start for the list

Done. Target Thursday at 1 pm eastern for earliest possible goLive

Perhaps something along the lines of “we will be releasing information about a large RES scraper network tomorrow after 1pm. While reviewing the information we found some people in trusted roles. Please be prepared to respond tomorrow afternoon. No further information is available at this time”

If we're telling him to clear his calendar, just start with that and that alone. "Something big" is on the horizon which is probably going to need his attention.

There's a public list

If I were Krug, I would appreciate knowing who and what. If I got something with "something big" I would ignore it.

If it gets his attention, go from there. If it doesn't he can be surprised with everyone else.

why are we notifying anomaly PoCs in specific?

Same reason as Krug.

What I'm flailing at: assume positive intent. if Krug/Niantic *did* want to respond internally in the right way, what would they need in order to do that?

@ollietronic would you care to do the anonymous Reddit splash?

they aren't employees.

Where did that even come from? It's a bad idea.

But they are trying to do a thing and this will take their time.

Where can I find this?

(Honestly, I'm in the "don't give anyone advance notice" boat, but I'm doing my best to be agreeable.)

They’d probably want all the evidence quietly so they can digest it and determine how hard to smack hands.

it's only going to take the time of people who choose to participate. or who are implicated.

Are we? I thought we were just going to post the same g+ message without tagging people

We're past that now

They pulled Q3 off it already, boo

Damn

I think there's just a misunderstanding of words.


I was saying I should add anomaly pocs to the list of implicated actors in the message to Krug

Ahhh

Yeah

I would, yes

With the amount of KC res I saw on there, it's a fair bet POCs are there

Ah, gotcha.

No, it's based on something I said about making a list of enl to preinform. Anomaly POCs being one example of enl who would appreciate knowing early.

Help me understand why

Ok. I understand.

how they can be prepared to respond?

Agreed

If we want to do that, the easy answer is to take the 98% shortcut and post to Enlightened Global Support.

People in this game want to be in the know. The more in the know they are the more they feel this way. When they aren't in the know, they react badly.

Free up time. Remember I think it’s a bad idea to tell them ahead of time anyway.

They miss adding some of the anomaly POCs, but it's a reasonable group.

This is true for people who aren't anomaly PoCs as well.

I would not prewarn any additional ENL without a compelling reason

Er, by which I mean, reasonable attempt at hitting all the people who get particular about being important.

I wasn't being exclusive to anomaly POCs

and wherever you draw the line, someone's going to be upset that they weren't in the know.

Do you mean all anomoly pocs, or just the ones coming up in November December?

This. The more who know, the shorter our time is before it blows

I guess I don't see much advantage to be gained by pre-notifying anyone else.

No pre notification. I wouldn't be upset if I weren't in here and people who do get upset are egotistical babies.

I think if that happens it happens in the public release, not before.

That'd be my call.

Sure.

The core problem with EGS is that there's nothing special about anomaly POCs.

This isn't an anomaly-specific issue

It's not even an anomaly-related issue

Ok, let's stop framing this around anomaly POCs.

also, the more people you do notify, the higher the chances that someone decides to do something with the information without consensus.

When this goes live, we will all take it to the places it needs to be quickly.

Yes.

Yes

Yes.

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New WB data:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-ERhFknO7kMdF9fVWR6anlJNzg

SCANNER BOT

oh that's good

wow

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With a side of geofencing, yay

Shitheads.

They braaag about how they stop our fields here

Is it clear that that's coming from RIOT and not another tool being copy-pasted in?

Which they don't do all that well

Wow. F**king creepy.

I don't understand what this hex key is

Is it a unique id tied to that specific ENL agent?

Probably to s Google account.

How they track fc

I assume so, but I don't know what it's used for

Cute, lots of PNW RES in this dump

We should be careful publishing that screenshot as if they have any sense they’ll be able to track who looked that up and know the leaker.

Of course if WB is going scorched earth and doesn’t care that is different.

My guess would be for internal (RIOT) referencing, and/or external referencing.

This

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It's a screenshot that jaralel requested

It was in the channel

Should be safe to distro

That ss is posted in the channel, yeah, not looked up by WB

Ah ok.

This represents such a substantial advantage to their team it's ridiculous. It's possible some enl will be very discouraged by this.

Some ENL will do what people always do and try to make their own

e.g. "STRIKE is going to be the ENL RESWUE, we need to level the playing field"

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In some areas where ENL win in spite of it there will be positive feelings too.

It's directly proportional to how much effort you put in. Time and effort from competent people trump drones with prompts every time.

ok, I've compiled and reorganized the most recent RIOT dump, here's the link:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-ERhFknO7kMZG1OYXItWHVwTGM

It's helpful to remember how many global wins we've racked up in the last two years.

Guardian hunting is increasingly the only game RES can still feel they're winning.

I'm still anticipating a high level of "fuck this game" especially when Krug says he can't stop them.