Whistle Orga

No, I think that's kind of creepy/stalkery. But we could tag ALL the vanguards.

Yes that would be the move

Either way, we've done everything we can do. Strandit or someone else will have to do the website stuff

Let me be the first to offer to pay for the website.

Based on the conversation above, I'm starting to believe we don't have nearly enough screenshots of agents actually using the tools

Agreed, we need to continue to get more and more screenshots if possible

The more of those we have the better

Two of my smurfs are pictured already

I would be so happy if there was a screenshot of them looking me up

At least I would know where my guardian is LOL

But what I have is them searching a database around a zip code and checking their score

It's just that the zip code happens to be 7 hrs out of his AO and within 10 km of 3 of my guardian portals

So based on what we have I know that exists of me, but to see it would be the smoking gun.

Regardless, more shots of agents querying players is needed, even if it means delay

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But why wouldn't he just search on your agent id

It's a good question. I'm saying there's a good chance that exists, but it might have been wiped at this point

We happened to catch a related query

This is probably a reason we can get WB to understand

Whoever The Whistleblower is is going to get caught up in this. Either their name is going to show up on the list or they're going to be singled out and found by the resistance after publication

One name in 900 is fairly anonymous. But yeah, res will do an ugly witch hunt and probably find them. We need to let that happen

well if there's a way to anonymously send someone a bottle of Scotch without actually knowing where to send it I will figure that way out

Lol 💚

Doesn't Amazon have delivery lockers?

It seems quite odd and coincidental that the zip code he was searching happens to be the exact area that you would be sent to look if you queried me. The only reason my portals are not listed is that they're in a place that is heavily green and has portals that have been untouched for over a year. And it's not somewhere an agent from Erie PA would just randomly search--it's not in our cell or the surrounding cells, etc. as soon as I input that zip code and that area came up I knew what exactly what he was looking for. But as was said above, what I am 99% sure of, and what we can prove are two different things.

I still would have to know a general vicinity I guess but yes they do that's a good idea

Did your portals there go down?

I'm thinking he looked you up, saw where he had to go, and was just also looking up the zip code in the area to see what else he could pop while he was there

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Backlogged ... ish, finally. Req’d access.
If this is the same tool I was shown last year at a glympse, it’s referred to as a hive mind for them. As well as that, there should be an associated map that ties into one’s requests.
I request X agent’s details
It is fed into slack & also into a map (i think through an iitc plugin)

Possible, or queried a list for another more local broker. This query ostensibly happened within the last 48 hours. On Sunday, Wanderer68 (screenshot also exists in our files of him checking his GH score) took out a portal in Central PA that was slightly older. So it would make sense that they would check on these, as they're next on the list and would show up on my "oldest owned portals". But they have many weeks to go still before they mature fully, so no idea if they'll be taken now or wait until 147 days, etc

Your boy is on there, obvs

Hes the one who showed it to me.

I figured

Req’d access, btw.
I wanna see if a few more are on there.

Tollermom

Heh .. im seeing her today

Will make 0 word of this

Yeah. Sinisterkitten should be in there too. Likely maggie.

Wow. All of my state BRRN reps are in it. And to think I thought it was somethin of moral stature.
Pfffft.

We need a gossip channel

Sorry for the minutiae, it's just that a bunch of our current usage screen shots involve Res from my area. I'm done. ☺️

To not distract from actual work

Point is, we need more screen shots .

That was my 2 cents of social work.
Yeah, that’s THE network / hive mind. Work it.

Id like to see that fall.

The WB needs a UPS box and I'll pitch in for Glenlivet 25.

I know I am in the 130s right now, so if they haven't already looked me up in taking my data they will soon

I would kill to get that screenshot

I'm garbo, lol

Let's use this chat to talk about how mad we are

And leave in here for business

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Sorry, upgraded to supergroup and it changed the link

On Niantic: we're not making demands of them.

Also, not mad--talking about strategy and whether we should delay the plan of release at all based on Nadia's point of view. But if you'd rather keep this strictly to webiste building/spreadsheet building logistics, that's ok too.

We're saying "hey, we're about to release this information we just got. We noticed one of your employees used this tool; as a courtesy we wanted to give you 48 hours to formulate any public statement you may wish to make."

@Strandit yeah, that came through clearly to me. It's also about letting them potentially speak to the devs involved and do something internally before we release.

Yeah, but you don't tell them that, you don't couch it as "we caught you."

for sure

This is why the whole evidence thing is irrelevant. You don't need more evidence; you're warning them about the shitstorm, and there's plenty for that.

I wouldn't bother with the LinkedIn material.

lol, fair point.

In fact I'd delete it — it's doxing.

But doxing is so sweet

I agree that that should not be published

Power words everywhere

I absolutely would not give anyone early warning especially Niantic. It provides far too much opportunity for them or the res to try to get ahead of this.

Just sent requests for the pieces I can't see yet.

What can I help with? Do we have screenshots that need the text pulled out of them? Our software has OCR capabilities...

If someone's IRL job is likely to be on the line, I think a courtesy heads up is a reasonable thing to do.

@Aneristic, shall I update the Bot Members List spreadsheet if I have additional information?

@SKSM5966 yes

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Participating in a group that explicitly violates the terms of services of your employer’s application creates a foreseeable event that your employer could find out and be unhappy about it.

IMO there’s too much risk in letting someone else get ahead on the story.

It's also about maintaining good relationships with Niantic.

Enl have spent a lot of time telling Niantic they're making a mistake recently.

It's accurate

this is a place where Niantic hasn't made a mistake directly.

Yes it is.

Is that true, though? Wouldn't employee activity be monitored?

And... it's the right thing to do. It's like security disclosure; you tell companies first so they have time to fix it.

TBH I don’t trust Niantic. It will embarrassing and they’ll want to control it.

jesus, I'm scared of your workplace. 😂

when there's an expose that's about to happen in the news, journalist usually call the person in question up for a quote for a comments before it's published. I think it's only fair that in that same sense of seriousness of what we are going to be publishing in terms of this person's livelihood, that we do the same I get what Scott is saying, so maybe we only give them a certain amount of time with notice

Yeah, nobody's watching what the kid does on Slack.

We're not saying "you can stop this release," we're saying "something that will make people mad at one of your employees will come out in 48 hours."

This. If you ever want anything but the most acrimonious of relationships with Niantic, you have to give them the basic courtesy that suits this circumstance

That’s pretty vague. If you’re hellbent on telling Niantic first then perhaps sending it to them at 8a Pacific with a release of noon is reasonable. They’ll have four hours but won’t be able to get far enough in front to control the narrative.

Yes, what would be the way to get out in front? Declare that scraping is not against TOS?

Isn't telling Krug the same thing as telling Niantic or do you mean a second message?

Side note — adding another tab for listed brokers.

A public release from Brokers Guild that some bad actors co-opted their chats for cheating. They are very upset and will root it out.

I don't know that we should put this all on krug's shoulders. There has to be somebody else to reach out to as well right?

Boy, that would be *fascinating*.

Learning that Niantic is willing to leak that hard to a Res organization.

Agreed exposing a wrong doing that may jeopardize one job when it violates employer policy is not my concern, it is a position that the employee put themselves in and we cannot compensate action for that

One of their devs is in it. Do you think he wouldn’t tell them the instant he knows?