2017-10-18
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
this
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
I was just thinking we'd have to pay hosting anyway if we leave it up in perpetuity.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
I've spent more in gas fielding, I have no problem assisting in funding,
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Charlie Arnold
What about tumblr?
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
How about MySpace? π
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Charlie Arnold
yeah google offers pretty easy hosting too
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
What's the difference between an anonymous website and an anonymous G+ profile?
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Charlie Arnold
I think the right thing to do is define loose parameters for each job, assign jobs to people we trust to do them, and then have everyone with related jobs talk to each other.
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Charlie Arnold
G+ is a personal space. You pay attention to the identity of the person who is talking to you. If that person is obviously, intentionally anonymous, it feels suspicious. It's about feel.
Websites are expected to be anonymous. You read a website, you consume data, you don't think about who is talking to you.
Websites are expected to be anonymous. You read a website, you consume data, you don't think about who is talking to you.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πΊπΈ)
So do we just want an intro blurb like "On 17 October 2017, some information about Resistance TOS-violating practices was revealed to Enlightened agents. Among this information was a collection of screenshots of Resistance Slack channels that employ comm-scraping for several reasons, including, but not limited to:
- Guardian portal lookup requests by agent
- Deployment of mods on portals
- etc, etc"
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- Guardian portal lookup requests by agent
- Deployment of mods on portals
- etc, etc"
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And from there we provide the list of res names involved
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Charlie Arnold
job 1: Establish platform. Must be anonymous, persistent and collaborative
job 2: Information architecture. Determine what needs to be on the page
job 3: write words that go in the word boxes
job 2: Information architecture. Determine what needs to be on the page
job 3: write words that go in the word boxes
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
True. Here's an informational website. All the supporting documentation is right here. Enjoy.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT πΊπΈ)
Noting vanguards and Niantic employees
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Charlie Arnold
jobs 2 and 3 could combine. All 3 jobs could combine. But we're on a clock and we have a lot of smart people who are good at things and we should get mileage out of them.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
Website for that reason is the best choice. Above g+ Tumblr etc.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
I'm ok with this
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Charlie Arnold
so, by noon eastern tomorrow we need publisher roles (set up space, architect information, write content) assigned. If that hasn't happened, then we fall back to something easier than one person can do.
I trust everyone here to do anything they say they're going to do, so if you want any of those jobs, go ahead and claim
if multiple people want things, we'll just collaborate. website will be a spinoff, informed by the peanut gallery
we need a working prototype by Thursday night
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL πΊπΈ]
Friday is the day on which people bury their bad news for a reason. Harder to get eyeballs. Unless you push at midnight and catch Europe in the morning.
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Charlie Arnold
clock is clock
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Charlie Arnold
I'd rather release in the morning than the evening.
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
perfection is the enemy of good
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
Global politics gets buried on Friday. But recreational stuff gears up for weekends. Don't most agents play more on weekends? Does this not track different?
Just asking since I don't know.
Just asking since I don't know.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
It should be in the morning evening kills rapid distribution
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Charlie Arnold
Maybe. I'm not sure. Whatever we produce has to be at least as compelling as the gdocs WB gave us, but more concise
Like, I know how I would write it, but I'm not a good writer. I'm maybe not a good judge of writing. I think I'd need to see a whole thing to know if it's right.
noon eastern Thursday seems ok
maybe
if there's a lot of investment
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
We can do this, this is important.
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Charlie Arnold
well, if we know for fucking sure that we'll be releasing at noon on Thursday, I'll tell him noon tomorrow
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
you give him 16 hours notice he'll be just as happy
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
As in ten hours from now?
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
you cant just be sure, you've got to have it ready to deploy in case the whole thing explodes
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Charlie Arnold
sure. That's an Ingress lifetime. But it means we need some folks to buy in hard on development of the information source
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
which you wont have till tomorrow afternoon at the earliest
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
I would only put the breaks on if the WB needs another day to acquire more or deeper information, and access will halt when this bomb drops
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Charlie Arnold
I'm ok telling WB that we're going to release noon on Thursday and need to get everything she can before that. My sense is that she'll understand.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
I gotta get up in four hours for work. When I get to work I will find hiding spots to help however I can with the content. A web designer I am not, however.
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
We may end up throwing a monkey wrench in our timeline if Krug respectfully asks us to delay until he can take action internally.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
That means something is being done. A valid reason for delay no?
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Michael Noda [GreatNorthern, PHL πΊπΈ]
Shooting for Thursday noon gives us buffer time to slip to Thursday evening or Friday morning if we absolutely have to, or Krug asks us.
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
I would present it as a heads up not as a please fix this or it goes public
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
An announcement is going to be made at such and such time, just wanted to be respectful and give you a heads-up that it's coming so you can do what you need to do.
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CQ ππ Sarah
Can we make our website look like this one?
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NickBurnsAll (Jackson MS)
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
Must sleep. See you all tomorrow. π
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Brian Lusky (RevDegen Erie PA)
Rocinante, Juicytooz, are both in there. Local Erie Kings and under STLCards regionally. #necro #almostbacklogged
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Charlie Arnold
"RIOT is a database that aggregates scraped comms data.
Using it, Resistance agents can query:
- all the portals belonging to a specified agent, including the dates on which those portals were captured
- upcoming Guardian portal candidates for a given region
- an agent's home portal and start date
Additional applications exist that enable authorized RES agents to:
- launch their own distributed scraping engines
- receive real time alerts on data not available via intel review, such as VRLA and hack mod deployment
- identify clusters of L7 and L8 portals (farms)
The functionality that drives these features and their use are violations of the Niantic Terms of Service.
A minimum of 680 RES agents are currently making use of these features. They include Niantic employees, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs.
Here are some examples:
//screenshot
//screenshot
//screenshot
Here is a list of all RES agents currently using these features
//spreadsheet
Here is complete screenshot evidence documenting these claims:
//all the screenshots
Using it, Resistance agents can query:
- all the portals belonging to a specified agent, including the dates on which those portals were captured
- upcoming Guardian portal candidates for a given region
- an agent's home portal and start date
Additional applications exist that enable authorized RES agents to:
- launch their own distributed scraping engines
- receive real time alerts on data not available via intel review, such as VRLA and hack mod deployment
- identify clusters of L7 and L8 portals (farms)
The functionality that drives these features and their use are violations of the Niantic Terms of Service.
A minimum of 680 RES agents are currently making use of these features. They include Niantic employees, Vanguards, and anomaly POCs.
Here are some examples:
//screenshot
//screenshot
//screenshot
Here is a list of all RES agents currently using these features
//spreadsheet
Here is complete screenshot evidence documenting these claims:
//all the screenshots
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Spike (crewellye -PIT β)
That layout alone without connecting the dots is Equivalent to the payload of the Enola gay
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Charlie Arnold
yeah. I'm not a good writer.
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Charlie Arnold
I'm just trying to suggest a framework
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
my sister is amazing at it
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
I took a crack at it, others should do the same