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Whistle Orga

40 members
2017-10-17
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Aneristic (PHL)
"ENL scrape to guardian hunt too"
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I brought that up earlier lol
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SCLori
Lol I got that impression too. He even says hi to me when he's passing thru my area on his way to Myrtle Beach
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
I want to pin down the names that I know but can't place but...I don't want to go asking around either.
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Aneristic (PHL)
There'll be time for that later.
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
When the list hits, their locals will know
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Google works fairly well if you're so inclined.
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
It really bugs me. The ones I can't place are most likely nebraska or Kansas
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
OK. Anyone familiar with North Carolina Res?
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Rebecca S (PoisonIvy30)
And gixxrgirl is either Texas or Florida.
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Charlie Arnold
In terms of process, this is where we are:


- We're populating the spreadsheet as well as we're able
- We're getting all the freaking the fuck out of our systems
- We're waiting for WB to finish pooping intel
- We're thinking about the how, what, where and when of the release.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Dropping two supporting RADAR docs into the top level drive.
Also from the RADAR chats — one was a Google Form link, one was a GDoc. Safe to hit anonymously.
The Wish List includes the ability to set up alerts on long links and large fields.
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Aneristic (PHL)
[[Photo]]
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
The Fundraising doc says — that.
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Charlie Arnold
Thank you for doing the work.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Also available benefits include RESWUE integration.
This tool began scraping in August, 2015.
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Aneristic (PHL)
[[Webpage]]patreon.com/radarresistance
if you donate you can get API access
um, don't donate
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Yeah. Hold on, assembling a doc tracing back to the author, he left me a trail of breadcrumbs.
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
That was the month I was told I would never get platinum.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I'm so angry right now.
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Charlie Arnold
What specific thing is pushing your buttons the most?
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matt - deaf1 - maine
wow, how did you find out
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Fuck it, I'm not doing that, I just came too close to doxing that asshole
It's in the Fundraising doc
You can get historic logs back to August 2015
Gold level contribution.
CQ
CQ 🐛👑 Sarah
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Guy who wrote the tool.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
How did you get into radar chats?
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
The screenshots previously shared.
2017-10-18
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Ohhhhhhhhh . i seee it now
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Charlie Arnold
I'm mostly just absorbing and thinking.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
the page after the blank one
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
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Charlie Arnold
Within 48 hours, we're going to have to act. Our cone and trajectory options are pretty narrow, but they'll make a difference.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
I'm still not seeing it
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matt - deaf1 - maine
Schwaller made the ingress ice screenshot tool. figures
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
He forked the original repo
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matt - deaf1 - maine
i still dont understand github
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Charlie Arnold
@VAIN_vurxof is right, I think. The most valuable thing we can do is try to use this to effect permanent cultural change. However minute.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
in the Whistle folder, go to RADAR, and in there you'll see three files.
The one you want is RADAR_EYE_Fundraising.pdf
go down to 3rd page
so, 600-900 people. almost all of them pay up $10, $25 a month?
thats $6k a month.
But from the fundrasing page it doesnt seem to be that much.
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Charlie Arnold
I'd be gobsmacked if everyone on that slack is paying.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Yeah, they're not all paying.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
Oh I thought you were talking about the chat
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Aneristic (PHL)
Most of those 900 are probably bronze
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
One time payments are likely the way most went
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
The Patreon is a better indicator. Couple hundred bucks a month.
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matt - deaf1 - maine
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Charlie Arnold
How do we release this information in a way slanted to maximize the likelihood of


1) Niantic publicly paying attention
2) Ingress prosumers+ actually changing the way they behave
I feel bad for Stego
sort of
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
I feel not a hint of sorrow for anyone on that list
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Charlie Arnold
[[Webpage]]YeahYeahYeahsVEVO: Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
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matt - deaf1 - maine
me either
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
Take the high road. We can list all the ways we could have used the information provided to us in an extremely obnoxious manner, but didn't because we're the class acts we are.
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Aneristic (PHL)
I didn't quite follow this but is there stuff in the docs it would actually be irresponsible to release because it can be used to dox people?
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
No matter what comes of this, at the very least the Res are going to have trust issues within there orga after.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I identified the original author of the program but I am unwilling to release his real name and home city.
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
I don't want to know it.
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SCLori
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matt - deaf1 - maine
you guys are so awesome. im gonna hit the sack.
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
Sleep well
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matt - deaf1 - maine
I'll probably wake up at 3am eagerly checking in
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
Haha. You can't make it 3 hours!
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
I'm just catching up on the radar thing, this absolutely confirms something we believed for a long time that they could tell when we put down hacking mods silently
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Yeah, that tech is *amazingly* simple. Fuck Niantic.
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StealthRanger [St. Louis, MO, USA]
How many times have we told a new agent that placing a mod will not make them show up on player tracker...
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Erich Bacher (@thePrevaricator WI, US)
This is why my local r s always accused me of having alerts when I found their farms.
Because they could
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
I've been accused of that one.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Same here
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Arctic Rebel - West TN
See, until recently (6 months ago?) I assumed mods did make you show up... heh
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
That's accurate enough though. It doesn't show up on standard player tracker.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
So that also means their scraper is actively checking portals individually re:radar
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SCLori
True. To the average agent you wouldn't show up.
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Chris (@vedorian central NJ, USA) Damoci
Wow this is the fucking motherload
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Mantispidae - west tn
Is there any indication from what folks have seen that they can see when someone hacks a portal with that software? I didn't see anything when I looked, but I might have missed it.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
Can't see hacks.
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SeaFoamSoul SAS
You show up on email alerts though.
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
OK. Stock intel gets a packet of information about each portal.
The stuff you see on Intel, obviously.
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Jemstar (15/~PIT 🇺🇸)
Fwiw, the exact wording in the TOS as it currently reads is "extract, scrape, or index the Services or Content (including information about users or game play)" ... this is in the "you agree not to do any of the following" section


#tos
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)
When a portal is modified, a new packet is sent.
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Charlie Arnold
and when they get the packet they check the portal against last known status
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Strandit (Seattle, WA, USA)