Whistle Orga

With all due respect.

sorry, done

Probably time to consider your presence in those rooms.

This

meh, I get that. I'd like to think if I was in this particular thing it would be different. Maybe just lying to myself

Thankfully you have time to grow a spine. So fix it.

Or alternatively, folks here want to go after enl offerings

hey, we're all just kids sorting through a challenging set of problems here. Please stay civil. Thanks.

If we're already attacking each other over this we're gonna be in trouble when this breaks.

Info I was given by a local RES about this thing a while back. Each agent gets a team, size is based on score, score being guardians hit. Each team contributes to the team leaders score. (My contact no longer plays but was a spoofer when he did)

Not all of us are just kids with access to enl scraping shit. 😂

Have to wonder at which point you wind up in a similar screenshot

Everything he told me is backed up by the info I've seen leaked so far

thing is, its a different situation. The tools are more or less benign, or half dark, or the thing I can see wouldnt incriminate anyone anyone would care about. Not saying no, just saying I have to think about it. Your judgements are not my judgements

This is fascinating intel, thank you!

welp.


I have to go run a BAF meeting for something I should have been preparing a few hours ago. This seems fine.


Be back in a little while

Also I'm immediately having regrests for IDing Slackfarmer. Just putting it out there. I can confirm though that the memory is correct and that was definately the Niantic dev I spoke to at Navarro for great length. He was a recent hire but player first. Possible that this tool was coded ahead of his onboarding? Not that it really makes a huge difference.

Again, I thought this was known stuff.

This tool is old.

Nope. I could and would have IDd him.

And scr33n has been involved with Niantic in some capacity for ages.

We are all learning the extent of our own naivete here.

Everyone has some.

What if the tool is being fed live data from the backend?

Yup. We grew up in different contexts. I would be booted from my community for that, but w/e

Seems extremely unlikely.

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If you were a player first and coded a thing, then got access to the backend and could improve tracking of said thing..?

It's not necessary. if it's happening I'm sure it will come out. But it seems unlikely.

Intel scraping can do all the things we've seen

I scanned the member list very quickly and recognized at least 5 St. Louis and Illinois area players.

You're talking about Reswar, within Reswue

The inclusion of start date on the list makes me think otherwise. It makes sense that the tool could track start date of players who joined after the creation of the tool but what if it can provide any players start date? How would that have been obtained?

This is different

This is just a friendly reminder that this is all very big news and is going to make very big waves. It's not a firehose , it's a firestorm waiting to happen. Keep it secret, keep it safe, do not leak even a hint of this to your home teams etc... This is going to be a hot mess no matter what and we don't want to burn down our own networks in the course of exposing it. We need to have frank factional conversations about fair tool use, but it's not going to happen in this charged room right now.

wow. just wow. any chance he's the mole? otherwise, hypocrite!

She

How do we know she?

we dont

its a euphemism

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How do we know it's even just one person?

The database of scraped comms data can predate the tool

It's one google account talking to Charlie.

Yes

Nothing is charged, people are allowed to have opinions. We've kicked multiple people out for cheating

That's all we know.

Hopefully someone being fem forward

I was responding that Stego is a she.

Ah.

I'm just saying that as much as I want to have that knock down drag out fight, now probably isn't the best time.

It's not a fight

And really I'd rather educate our communities from boots up to not fall for scrapey tools and clubs in the first place.

I think we are all here because we are troubled by scraping.

We are just working in wildly different contexts.

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Like all culture, starts with teaching newbies

So it's an ingress multilevel marketing dealio?

That's Reswar, this is different

Got it, thx

This is creepier

Definitely

Yes, this is big

It's just a gamification component to motivate people to do things

Gamifying a video game

This seem like a anxious room currently, many emotions form discovery and information provided. That is fine. We are all troubled and want to do the right thing and not knee jerk to a snap action. So options will fly and we all will be sorting data and soul searching. In the end think Zen. Everyone take a slow deep breath... we will all think clearer.

Well, there are only 16 levels and fuckall for endgame that isn't emergent gameplay

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Agreed and LOVE YOU ALL

I am 900 messages behind here because other projects but just want to stay I love you all 💚💚

The lynch mod mentality should be in the Wuff room only ...of which I am now late for.

Poor neglected wuff 😔

Quick question..... as I am a low level nerd...... but does WB have access to the API they are using to run this bot??? I mean closing that down would be more advantageous than getting these hunters banned .... as I suspect many will just start new accounts if the ban hammer falls

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There isn't? Calling someone's behavior inappropriate isn't a lynching

We suspect not, I think

#sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LTPhGVZNfUSQyaPz8eq9EO-S1RebKBz6vKIGsIk-g1o/edit#gid=0

That was earlier, no. It's tracked

i didnt see an explict no.

from what i gleaned - im thinking that charlie hasnt asked

RES are pretty hierarchical. We know WB doesn't have access to the API key for Slack.

ok

I suggest this only means they are not admin for that slack.

Just a Segway to jump to amother room

If WB was running the bot they'd probably be admin for the slack.

I have no issue with the conversation here being critical of my choices. I invite it. Perhaps ironically, I think I live pretty honestly for the most part. If I cant defend what I did then I should make better choices

Wanna see Charlie have an aneurism??? Should I ping the hunter I visiting in the hospital and tell her I’ll flip if I get riot access???

I don't think he would be the only one.

But we should focus on what to do about these docs.

Just joking.........

I'm gonna say again: there's a really good chance we're going to get people fired. I get it, but bad time for jokes.

I was straight up offered "everything that the RES had." if I flipped.

Gross

Not even considering it.

They're gross

I got wine and cigars

i dont smoke cigars, but hey, I'll bbe right over.

:P

Oh, this was years ago. They figured out I wasn't flipping

Please explain...... people getting fired???